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google, banking, surgical robots, etc. look at companies that kill if they fuck up. dont count on random crup web app shop to give a crap about clean code.

by wayn3 9y ago

BjoernKW 9y ago
Banking software more often than not is the epitome of software held together by duct tape. It's a jumble of obsolete systems communicating via convoluted and opaque protocols. Think COBOL, mainframes, huge, cumbersome application servers and database systems. It's just that banks have enough money to throw at problems that arise with these systems.
- wayn3 9y ago
  well then, i guess youre right.
afarrell 9y ago
> crud web app shop CRUD != crud I don't know if you are making this error, but I it all the time on /r/cscareersquestions and it is a foolish conflation. crud: crappily-built product CRUD: a set of UI operations on records in your data model. You can totally have a well-built CRUD app maintained by a team that cares about code quality.
- wayn3 9y ago
  maybe i just dont care maybe it was intentionally conflated to call CRUD usually crappily-built maybe i dont subscribe to your nomenclature maybe you can have well-built crud apps (omg I did it again and this time its an oxymoron), but if you pick out a crud app at random, I'll give you 10:1 odds that its code quality is absolute garbage
- UK-AL 9y ago
  Yes, but CRUD applications are typically done for small applications on uninteresting problems where people don't really care about code quality. So they have a bad reputation. The worst CRUD applications, is where they've been extended where they are no longer CRUD but the architecture still assumes CRUD.
- tbihl 9y ago
  Alternatively,if we're being pedantic, we can go to the original definition, Chalk River Unidentified Deposit (later determined to be activated corrosion products.)
  - jamessb 9y ago
    This seems to be a backronym, rather than the word's actual etymology [1]. [1]: https://public-blog.nrc-gateway.gov/2015/03/31/crud-another-acronym-bites-the-dust/ https://public-blog.nrc-gateway.gov/2015/03/31/crud-another-...

google, banking, surgical robots, etc. look at companies that kill if they fuck up. dont count on random crup web app shop to give a crap about clean code.

by wayn3 9y ago

google, banking, surgical robots, etc. look at companies that kill if they fuck up. dont count on random crup web app shop to give a crap about clean code.

BjoernKW 9y ago

Banking software more often than not is the epitome of software held together by duct tape. It's a jumble of obsolete systems communicating via convoluted and opaque protocols. Think COBOL, mainframes, huge, cumbersome application servers and database systems. It's just that banks have enough money to throw at problems that arise with these systems.

wayn3 9y ago
well then, i guess youre right.

afarrell 9y ago

> crud web app shop CRUD != crud I don't know if you are making this error, but I it all the time on /r/cscareersquestions and it is a foolish conflation. crud: crappily-built product CRUD: a set of UI operations on records in your data model. You can totally have a well-built CRUD app maintained by a team that cares about code quality.

wayn3 9y ago
maybe i just dont care maybe it was intentionally conflated to call CRUD usually crappily-built maybe i dont subscribe to your nomenclature maybe you can have well-built crud apps (omg I did it again and this time its an oxymoron), but if you pick out a crud app at random, I'll give you 10:1 odds that its code quality is absolute garbage
UK-AL 9y ago
Yes, but CRUD applications are typically done for small applications on uninteresting problems where people don't really care about code quality. So they have a bad reputation. The worst CRUD applications, is where they've been extended where they are no longer CRUD but the architecture still assumes CRUD.
tbihl 9y ago
Alternatively,if we're being pedantic, we can go to the original definition, Chalk River Unidentified Deposit (later determined to be activated corrosion products.)
- jamessb 9y ago
  This seems to be a backronym, rather than the word's actual etymology [1]. [1]: https://public-blog.nrc-gateway.gov/2015/03/31/crud-another-acronym-bites-the-dust/ https://public-blog.nrc-gateway.gov/2015/03/31/crud-another-...