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Don't you pay more council tax if you have land?

falsedan 9y ago
No, properties are allocated to 'bands' (A-H, +I in Wales), and the rates set as a percentage of the 'D' band. Generally, properties are assigned bands according to density/cost of providing services to an area: an area with a difficult garbage pickup route may get a higher band, or a place with more schools. More typically, bands are allocated based on the ability of the occupiers to pay, and the funds are combined (reallocated) at the local authority level so that deprived areas can be subsidised by wealthy areas.
- laurencerowe 9y ago
  Council tax bands are based on the property's value on 1 April 1991 (a couple of years before it was introduced.) Within a local authority, the cost of providing services to a property does not effect the band. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/understand-how-council-tax-bands-are-assessed https://www.gov.uk/guidance/understand-how-council-tax-bands...
  - falsedan 9y ago
    Great correction to my post.
branchless 9y ago
You pay less on a second home than the person next door. The "logic" is you are using less "services" but then that's not land value tax. You are occupying the land, there is an opportunity cost, you should pay full whack. The UK is a total nightmare for this and the education level is very low especially in economics so any mention of it is met with "it's me house".
- to3m 9y ago
  I paid more on my second home (for the 2 months I had one...) as the council only offered a single person discount on one's primary residence.
  - branchless 9y ago
    https://www.gov.uk/council-tax/second-homes-and-empty-properties https://www.gov.uk/council-tax/second-homes-and-empty-proper...
    - to3m 9y ago
      The Second Homes section of https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/home/council-tax/council-tax-discounts-exemptions https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/home/council-tax/council-tax-di... describes the applicable rules in this case.
ascorbic 9y ago
Insofar as a house with lots of land attached will probably have a higher value, then yes. But not directly, and only for land that is within the curtilage of the residential property.
pjc50 9y ago
This depends entirely on what you're using the land for. If you have a farm with a farmhouse on it, you pay council tax on the house but not on the farm (greatly oversimplified from http://manuals.voa.gov.uk/corporate/publications/Manuals/CouncilTaxManual/council_tax_man_pn/f-ct-man-pn2-appb.html#P178_7900 http://manuals.voa.gov.uk/corporate/publications/Manuals/Cou... ). There are all sorts of exemptions. A common source of complaints is that it's possible to have a huge area of Scotland as grouse moor but not pay business rates on it.
- branchless 9y ago
  And the establishment shoot grouse so they create a rule that lets them do what they want whilst the poor suffer.

No, properties are allocated to 'bands' (A-H, +I in Wales), and the rates set as a percentage of the 'D' band. Generally, properties are assigned bands according to density/cost of providing services to an area: an area with a difficult garbage pickup route may get a higher band, or a place with more schools. More typically, bands are allocated based on the ability of the occupiers to pay, and the funds are combined (reallocated) at the local authority level so that deprived areas can be subsidised by wealthy areas.

laurencerowe 9y ago
Council tax bands are based on the property's value on 1 April 1991 (a couple of years before it was introduced.) Within a local authority, the cost of providing services to a property does not effect the band. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/understand-how-council-tax-bands-are-assessed https://www.gov.uk/guidance/understand-how-council-tax-bands...
- falsedan 9y ago
  Great correction to my post.

branchless 9y ago

You pay less on a second home than the person next door. The "logic" is you are using less "services" but then that's not land value tax. You are occupying the land, there is an opportunity cost, you should pay full whack. The UK is a total nightmare for this and the education level is very low especially in economics so any mention of it is met with "it's me house".

to3m 9y ago
I paid more on my second home (for the 2 months I had one...) as the council only offered a single person discount on one's primary residence.
- branchless 9y ago
  https://www.gov.uk/council-tax/second-homes-and-empty-properties https://www.gov.uk/council-tax/second-homes-and-empty-proper...
  - to3m 9y ago
    The Second Homes section of https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/home/council-tax/council-tax-discounts-exemptions https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/home/council-tax/council-tax-di... describes the applicable rules in this case.

ascorbic 9y ago

Insofar as a house with lots of land attached will probably have a higher value, then yes. But not directly, and only for land that is within the curtilage of the residential property.

pjc50 9y ago

This depends entirely on what you're using the land for. If you have a farm with a farmhouse on it, you pay council tax on the house but not on the farm (greatly oversimplified from http://manuals.voa.gov.uk/corporate/publications/Manuals/CouncilTaxManual/council_tax_man_pn/f-ct-man-pn2-appb.html#P178_7900 http://manuals.voa.gov.uk/corporate/publications/Manuals/Cou... ). There are all sorts of exemptions. A common source of complaints is that it's possible to have a huge area of Scotland as grouse moor but not pay business rates on it.

branchless 9y ago
And the establishment shoot grouse so they create a rule that lets them do what they want whilst the poor suffer.