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Can't they order you to sign into iCloud or equivalent and then just sync whatever they want, photos, texts, emails, apps (and then order you to sign into those

Can't they order you to sign into iCloud or equivalent and then just sync whatever they want, photos, texts, emails, apps (and then order you to sign into those apps like Facebook, Whatsapp, Gmail)? Bottom line is they can get you AND everything you have access to. And it you try to circumvent it by i.e. temporarily encrypting everything for 24hr boom you just committed a felony. This is my understanding at least.

rpedroso 9y ago
IANAL and I don't have an answer to this, but I would be deeply alarmed if this were the case. I can understand them making the case that anything on your personal is searchable (though I disagree that this should be allowed). By asking you to sign in and sync, they're not just requesting access to information on your person -- that's an enormous expansion of their search powers.
- ben_jones 9y ago
  Isn't it established that they'll ask for social media credentials which sync old data automatically?
- mtgx 9y ago
  I mean, aren't they forcing you to give Facebook passwords now? https://www.cnet.com/news/us-border-agents-facebook-twitter-password/ https://www.cnet.com/news/us-border-agents-facebook-twitter-...
chillwaves 9y ago
You know what's strange? I just can't remember my password to this account. Real talk, if you play games they will find a way to fuck you up, and even if it is not strictly legal, even if you with some kind of relief later (not likely a nice settlement), you will still have to deal with getting fucked pretty bad at the time. Not a great outcome.
- throwanem 9y ago
  Yeah, no shit. "Oh, you can't remember your password? That's OK, we have a nice place here for you to sit until you do."
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simplyluke 9y ago
"And it you try to circumvent it by i.e. temporarily encrypting everything for 24hr boom you just committed a felony" This isn't true. Encrypting your device is not illegal, and they do not have the legal authority to compel you to unencrypt it or make you sign in to anything. They can make your life miserable, but the constitution still applies.

rpedroso 9y ago

IANAL and I don't have an answer to this, but I would be deeply alarmed if this were the case. I can understand them making the case that anything on your personal is searchable (though I disagree that this should be allowed). By asking you to sign in and sync, they're not just requesting access to information on your person -- that's an enormous expansion of their search powers.

ben_jones 9y ago
Isn't it established that they'll ask for social media credentials which sync old data automatically?
mtgx 9y ago
I mean, aren't they forcing you to give Facebook passwords now? https://www.cnet.com/news/us-border-agents-facebook-twitter-password/ https://www.cnet.com/news/us-border-agents-facebook-twitter-...

chillwaves 9y ago

You know what's strange? I just can't remember my password to this account. Real talk, if you play games they will find a way to fuck you up, and even if it is not strictly legal, even if you with some kind of relief later (not likely a nice settlement), you will still have to deal with getting fucked pretty bad at the time. Not a great outcome.

throwanem 9y ago
Yeah, no shit. "Oh, you can't remember your password? That's OK, we have a nice place here for you to sit until you do."

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simplyluke 9y ago

"And it you try to circumvent it by i.e. temporarily encrypting everything for 24hr boom you just committed a felony" This isn't true. Encrypting your device is not illegal, and they do not have the legal authority to compel you to unencrypt it or make you sign in to anything. They can make your life miserable, but the constitution still applies.