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Just curious why you always quote and reference things in your posts. To me it just feels overly formal and extraneous for the level and type of conversation I

by jward 19y ago

Just curious why you always quote and reference things in your posts. To me it just feels overly formal and extraneous for the level and type of conversation I expect to find here. It's a lot like shaking my roomates hand in greeting every day. To answer your question: Programmers Notepad, WinSCP, TurtleSVN, PuTTY

bootload 19y ago
'... Programmers Notepad, WinSCP, TurtleSVN, PuTTY ...' What languages? '... Just curious why you always quote and reference things in your posts. To me it just feels overly formal and extraneous for the level and type of conversation I expect to find here ...' Not overly formal but dense. While the 'Internet might not forget', [0] it looses context and meaning over time. This means the things you write now, are going to be around for a long time. So if you are going to write something it may as well be interesting & useful. This isn't 'formalism' gone mad, but recognising that a small additional bit of information makes quick comments, observations, insights much more useful at some time in the future. I'll give you an example. One post on 'Deep data' [1] I added some comments, cited the source and made some extra observations that would make the overall comment more complicated than it should be. I wasn't really surprised then, checking back over the original sources the author [2] had picked up this post - why? Because I added extra useful information (author, article title, comment, keyword), picked up by google & found & provided useful feedback. Plus, what makes you think I just leave the comments here? I cross post good comments to my flickr account, summaries to twitter & full posts to my blog. Though I must admit If i had inline links I probably wouldn't need to cite as much :( Reference [0] Jay Ward's blog, 'The Internet Doesn`t Forget' http://www.wardtek.ca/2007/04/the-internet-doesnt-forget/ http://www.wardtek.ca/2007/04/the-internet-doesnt-forget/ [1] bootload, news.yc, 'GDrive Google's next big thing?' http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=10792 http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=10792 [2] Joe Gregorio, bitworking.org, 'Megadata Follow-up' http://bitworking.org/news/159/Megadata-Follow-up http://bitworking.org/news/159/Megadata-Follow-up
- jward 19y ago
  Languages? Generally Python as of late. I find it easy and fast to work in. I'm trying to learn Haskell, so my next project will be using that. My workflow tends to go like this... I open an ssh session to my colocated dev box to run servers, reboot services, etc. I use WinSCP to connect to the server and edit code directly on there so I can see the changes. I do my best to keep SVN up and running so I have a repository. I used to just use vi over ssh, but I've found programmers notepad much nicer for dealing with large amounts of files. Since I do webapps I have on one screen my editor, my ssh connection (or three), and WinSCP to manage files on the server. The other monitor holds Firefox and all it's glorious debugging tools.
whacked_new 19y ago
I was curious about it too; it's certainly not an easy thing to do, and bootload does it well. http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=10389 http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=10389
- bootload 19y ago
  '... it's certainly not an easy thing to do ...' I'm in the process of refining my toolset to allow you to create, capture a post. I've been doing this kind of stuff for a long time, for example my /. uid=2774. [0] So I've had plenty of practice. The current problem I'm working on is creating my toolset [1] to move up the data chain, from data-information-knowledge-wisdom. [2] Capturing my data, adding extra information then being able to push it elsewhere ~ just being another live node on the network :) A more important thing trying to improve my quality of life. Reference [0] Slashdot was the news.yc of it's time http://slashdot.org/~goon http://slashdot.org/~goon [1] ng or Nextgen http://flickr.com/photos/bootload/tags/nextgen http://flickr.com/photos/bootload/tags/nextgen [2] ITConversations, Gigavox media, 'Attention: The Real Aphrodisiac, 24:23, 11.2 mb' http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail739.html http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail739.html

by jward 19y ago

bootload 19y ago

'... Programmers Notepad, WinSCP, TurtleSVN, PuTTY ...' What languages? '... Just curious why you always quote and reference things in your posts. To me it just feels overly formal and extraneous for the level and type of conversation I expect to find here ...' Not overly formal but dense. While the 'Internet might not forget', [0] it looses context and meaning over time. This means the things you write now, are going to be around for a long time. So if you are going to write something it may as well be interesting & useful. This isn't 'formalism' gone mad, but recognising that a small additional bit of information makes quick comments, observations, insights much more useful at some time in the future. I'll give you an example. One post on 'Deep data' [1] I added some comments, cited the source and made some extra observations that would make the overall comment more complicated than it should be. I wasn't really surprised then, checking back over the original sources the author [2] had picked up this post - why? Because I added extra useful information (author, article title, comment, keyword), picked up by google & found & provided useful feedback. Plus, what makes you think I just leave the comments here? I cross post good comments to my flickr account, summaries to twitter & full posts to my blog. Though I must admit If i had inline links I probably wouldn't need to cite as much :( Reference [0] Jay Ward's blog, 'The Internet Doesn`t Forget' http://www.wardtek.ca/2007/04/the-internet-doesnt-forget/ http://www.wardtek.ca/2007/04/the-internet-doesnt-forget/ [1] bootload, news.yc, 'GDrive Google's next big thing?' http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=10792 http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=10792 [2] Joe Gregorio, bitworking.org, 'Megadata Follow-up' http://bitworking.org/news/159/Megadata-Follow-up http://bitworking.org/news/159/Megadata-Follow-up

jward 19y ago
Languages? Generally Python as of late. I find it easy and fast to work in. I'm trying to learn Haskell, so my next project will be using that. My workflow tends to go like this... I open an ssh session to my colocated dev box to run servers, reboot services, etc. I use WinSCP to connect to the server and edit code directly on there so I can see the changes. I do my best to keep SVN up and running so I have a repository. I used to just use vi over ssh, but I've found programmers notepad much nicer for dealing with large amounts of files. Since I do webapps I have on one screen my editor, my ssh connection (or three), and WinSCP to manage files on the server. The other monitor holds Firefox and all it's glorious debugging tools.

whacked_new 19y ago

I was curious about it too; it's certainly not an easy thing to do, and bootload does it well. http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=10389 http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=10389

bootload 19y ago
'... it's certainly not an easy thing to do ...' I'm in the process of refining my toolset to allow you to create, capture a post. I've been doing this kind of stuff for a long time, for example my /. uid=2774. [0] So I've had plenty of practice. The current problem I'm working on is creating my toolset [1] to move up the data chain, from data-information-knowledge-wisdom. [2] Capturing my data, adding extra information then being able to push it elsewhere ~ just being another live node on the network :) A more important thing trying to improve my quality of life. Reference [0] Slashdot was the news.yc of it's time http://slashdot.org/~goon http://slashdot.org/~goon [1] ng or Nextgen http://flickr.com/photos/bootload/tags/nextgen http://flickr.com/photos/bootload/tags/nextgen [2] ITConversations, Gigavox media, 'Attention: The Real Aphrodisiac, 24:23, 11.2 mb' http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail739.html http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail739.html