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And Trump was called Hitler, Idiot, Psychopath and all sorts of other things. Presidents simply attract some amount of hatred.

Danihan 9y ago
Not to mention how many liberals take smug joy in mocking Trump's skin tone, without the least bit of irony..
- davidcbc 9y ago
  The US doesn't have a long history of oppressing people who use fake tan sprays so the two really aren't comparable.
  - anothercomment 9y ago
    What about people with red hair? I think they have a history of being bullied?
  - Danihan 9y ago
    ... He just had a tan from tanning / being in Florida. http://www.marieclaire.com/politics/news/a26621/donald-trump-disappearing-tan/ http://www.marieclaire.com/politics/news/a26621/donald-trump...
    - davidcbc 9y ago
      OK? The US doesn't have a history of oppressing white people with tans either
      - Danihan 9y ago
        So you're in the camp of "It's not racism or bigotry, as long as it's against whites?"
        davidcbc 9y ago
        I do not believe that people making fun of Trump's bad tan are motivated by racism, no.
        whitemale 9y ago
        What is your definition of racism?
        livingparadox 9y ago
        https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
cjslep 9y ago
Yes, to take your point further: instead of any of those names, for Obama people chose a racial slur. They could have just as easily used Hitler, Idiot, Psycopath. That would have been a better test of whether our society was in some post-race society that people think we're in just because we got one black president, once. If that doesn't make you stop and think, I'm really not sure what else will.
- anothercomment 9y ago
  They just call people what the suppose annoys them most. That is why they call women cunts and men gay or sexist or whatever. Would you say sexism is only over when men are being called cunts and bitches? Actually it seems to me Nigger is a lot softer than Hitler. It basically means "black person I don't like because they are black". Hitler means "psychopathic mass murderer". Besides, this is again the "there is an asshole in Kansas" line of thinking. Just because you can find somebody, somewhere in the universe who is an asshole, it doesn't prove that everybody is an asshole.
  - cjslep 9y ago
    I don't think that first line is true, most adults are able to be disagreeable without using a slur, such as us. So no, I would say sexism wouldn't exist if people could disagree on merits of discussion instead of any insults (which, by nature of personal attack, immediately invokes all *isms of the victim). Second, there's a huge difference between insulting someone because of their perceived character ("asshole") with little cultural baggage, and insulting someone for being literally in their own skin with a word that has huge cultural baggage. On this point I would hope we would agree. Also, I find comparisons of Trump to Hitler silly and overreactionary (and I have a book recommendation for those that want to learn how Hitler actually rose to power). Finally, I do agree that the lashing out against Trump supporters is bad. Just as it was bad that Obama supporters also had to put up with burning crosses in their frontyards when he was elected. Both sides can't see this sucks for everyone at different times for some reason and it's a stupid cycle. The ultimate lack of empathy from both sides is what really bothers me, the culmination of which is the continued ignorance of believing we are in some post-race society. I may as well proclaim we are a species that lives on multiple planets because we sent humans to the Moon once.

Danihan 9y ago

Not to mention how many liberals take smug joy in mocking Trump's skin tone, without the least bit of irony..

davidcbc 9y ago
The US doesn't have a long history of oppressing people who use fake tan sprays so the two really aren't comparable.
- anothercomment 9y ago
  What about people with red hair? I think they have a history of being bullied?
- Danihan 9y ago
  ... He just had a tan from tanning / being in Florida. http://www.marieclaire.com/politics/news/a26621/donald-trump-disappearing-tan/ http://www.marieclaire.com/politics/news/a26621/donald-trump...
  - davidcbc 9y ago
    OK? The US doesn't have a history of oppressing white people with tans either
    - Danihan 9y ago
      So you're in the camp of "It's not racism or bigotry, as long as it's against whites?"
      - davidcbc 9y ago
        I do not believe that people making fun of Trump's bad tan are motivated by racism, no.
        whitemale 9y ago
        What is your definition of racism?
        livingparadox 9y ago
        https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

cjslep 9y ago

Yes, to take your point further: instead of any of those names, for Obama people chose a racial slur. They could have just as easily used Hitler, Idiot, Psycopath. That would have been a better test of whether our society was in some post-race society that people think we're in just because we got one black president, once. If that doesn't make you stop and think, I'm really not sure what else will.

anothercomment 9y ago
They just call people what the suppose annoys them most. That is why they call women cunts and men gay or sexist or whatever. Would you say sexism is only over when men are being called cunts and bitches? Actually it seems to me Nigger is a lot softer than Hitler. It basically means "black person I don't like because they are black". Hitler means "psychopathic mass murderer". Besides, this is again the "there is an asshole in Kansas" line of thinking. Just because you can find somebody, somewhere in the universe who is an asshole, it doesn't prove that everybody is an asshole.
- cjslep 9y ago
  I don't think that first line is true, most adults are able to be disagreeable without using a slur, such as us. So no, I would say sexism wouldn't exist if people could disagree on merits of discussion instead of any insults (which, by nature of personal attack, immediately invokes all *isms of the victim). Second, there's a huge difference between insulting someone because of their perceived character ("asshole") with little cultural baggage, and insulting someone for being literally in their own skin with a word that has huge cultural baggage. On this point I would hope we would agree. Also, I find comparisons of Trump to Hitler silly and overreactionary (and I have a book recommendation for those that want to learn how Hitler actually rose to power). Finally, I do agree that the lashing out against Trump supporters is bad. Just as it was bad that Obama supporters also had to put up with burning crosses in their frontyards when he was elected. Both sides can't see this sucks for everyone at different times for some reason and it's a stupid cycle. The ultimate lack of empathy from both sides is what really bothers me, the culmination of which is the continued ignorance of believing we are in some post-race society. I may as well proclaim we are a species that lives on multiple planets because we sent humans to the Moon once.