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This has really huge potential for abuse. How do we know the acts happened indeed?

chipgap98 9y ago
While there are instances of false accusations, isn't the larger problem in our society that people are harassed or abused at work on a seemingly regular basis?
- anothercomment 9y ago
  False accusations are also harassment.
  - chipgap98 9y ago
    Agreed. But it seems like the problem we have now is that more people are being harassed and not being taken seriously with their claims than people making false claims. Is that a world we are okay with living in? Regardless of the answer we should be having that conversation
    - anothercomment 9y ago
      One problem I have with these list is, as you say, they make it seem as if there is a huge problem with people being harassed. I am not convinced that is true, because the context is missing. Like how many people work for Google, how many incidents are there per month, and how many of these incidents even warrant a complaint? There is already a debate about the "princess" incident. Eventually somebody will make statistics about that list, and the "princess" incident will be counted as a harassment incident along the lines of grabbing somebodies ass or blackmailing them for sex over losing their job. That seems very misleading. Also, I'd argue the existence of such a list is already harassment of a lot of people. If now you have to watch your back for every comment, it doesn't make for a very pleasant work day. I can not judge if "princess" was harassment or not, because we lack context - and so do the readers of the list. It could be friends who habitually edge each other on, like calling a vegetarian "princess" to probe their determination. Or it could be said with disdain, Redneck style (anybody who doesn't eat meat can't amount to much). We don't know. But everybody now has to worry about their words being taken out of context and glued to the wall.
ehsankia 9y ago
They don't, but I don't think the point of it is to accuse people, you would report to HR and have a proper investigation for that. From the report, this is fully anonymous on both sides, so it sounds like the purpose is more to learn from mistakes and realize things that we may have done unconsciously, more so than pointing fingers. Like for example, when Eric interrupted the other person as the article say, I doubt they were intentionally trying to be disrespectful and he may not have realized what he did was not nice. But by seeing the impact that some action have had on other people, we can view things from other people's perspective and learn from it.

While there are instances of false accusations, isn't the larger problem in our society that people are harassed or abused at work on a seemingly regular basis?

anothercomment 9y ago
False accusations are also harassment.
- chipgap98 9y ago
  Agreed. But it seems like the problem we have now is that more people are being harassed and not being taken seriously with their claims than people making false claims. Is that a world we are okay with living in? Regardless of the answer we should be having that conversation
  - anothercomment 9y ago
    One problem I have with these list is, as you say, they make it seem as if there is a huge problem with people being harassed. I am not convinced that is true, because the context is missing. Like how many people work for Google, how many incidents are there per month, and how many of these incidents even warrant a complaint? There is already a debate about the "princess" incident. Eventually somebody will make statistics about that list, and the "princess" incident will be counted as a harassment incident along the lines of grabbing somebodies ass or blackmailing them for sex over losing their job. That seems very misleading. Also, I'd argue the existence of such a list is already harassment of a lot of people. If now you have to watch your back for every comment, it doesn't make for a very pleasant work day. I can not judge if "princess" was harassment or not, because we lack context - and so do the readers of the list. It could be friends who habitually edge each other on, like calling a vegetarian "princess" to probe their determination. Or it could be said with disdain, Redneck style (anybody who doesn't eat meat can't amount to much). We don't know. But everybody now has to worry about their words being taken out of context and glued to the wall.

ehsankia 9y ago

They don't, but I don't think the point of it is to accuse people, you would report to HR and have a proper investigation for that. From the report, this is fully anonymous on both sides, so it sounds like the purpose is more to learn from mistakes and realize things that we may have done unconsciously, more so than pointing fingers. Like for example, when Eric interrupted the other person as the article say, I doubt they were intentionally trying to be disrespectful and he may not have realized what he did was not nice. But by seeing the impact that some action have had on other people, we can view things from other people's perspective and learn from it.