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It's the first time I read about the FineArt Go bot (by Tencent?). Is there any more information about it? How does it compare to AlphaGo? What software/algorit

It's the first time I read about the FineArt Go bot (by Tencent?). Is there any more information about it? How does it compare to AlphaGo? What software/algorithms does it use?

pmontra 9y ago
Some links about FineArt. In English http://technode.com/2017/03/20/tencents-fine-art-wins-computer-go-uec-cup/ http://technode.com/2017/03/20/tencents-fine-art-wins-comput... https://qz.com/936654/googles-alpha-go-now-has-a-serious-game-playing-rival-with-tencents-jueyi-or-fineart/ https://qz.com/936654/googles-alpha-go-now-has-a-serious-gam... In Chinese http://tech.qq.com/a/20170319/015726.htm http://tech.qq.com/a/20170319/015726.htm https://www.huxiu.com/article/186238.html https://www.huxiu.com/article/186238.html From the second English link: > As Tencent’s tech blog explains (link in Chinese), FineArts works in a similar way to AlphaGo. Both AIs comprise two computer systems modeled on the human brain, which can be trained on large data sets. One part of the system, the “policy network,” predicts which of the possible moves are the likeliest to be played. The other, the “value network,” then evaluates which of those is likeliest to win
- albertzeyer 9y ago
  Ah, so Tencent is a company. "Chinese tech giant Tencent". They did QQ and WeChat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent It seems as if they are even bigger than Baidu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu) which is maybe more known (at least by me). It seems this is the website of the group (the Tencent AI lab) which developed the FineArt Go bot: http://ai.tencent.com/ailab/ http://ai.tencent.com/ailab/ Here some article from Tencent about their Go bot (in Chinese): http://ai.tencent.com/ailab/%E5%86%8D%E5%88%9B%E4%BD%B3%E7%BB%A9%E8%85%BE%E8%AE%AF%E5%9B%B4%E6%A3%8BAI%E2%80%9C%E7%BB%9D%E8%89%BA%E2%80%9D%E7%94%B5%E5%9C%A3%E6%88%98%E5%A4%BA%E5%86%A0.html http://ai.tencent.com/ailab/%E5%86%8D%E5%88%9B%E4%BD%B3%E7%B... There is also a Wikipedia article about the Fine Art Go bot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine_Art_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine_Art_(software) Along the line, I also read about DeepZenGo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(software)
  - Cookingboy 9y ago
    Tencent is huge, they also own League of Legends and recently just made a $1B investment in Tesla. The only comparable Chinese tech company is Alibaba.

It's the first time I read about the FineArt Go bot (by Tencent?). Is there any more information about it? How does it compare to AlphaGo? What software/algorithms does it use?

pmontra 9y ago

Some links about FineArt. In English http://technode.com/2017/03/20/tencents-fine-art-wins-computer-go-uec-cup/ http://technode.com/2017/03/20/tencents-fine-art-wins-comput... https://qz.com/936654/googles-alpha-go-now-has-a-serious-game-playing-rival-with-tencents-jueyi-or-fineart/ https://qz.com/936654/googles-alpha-go-now-has-a-serious-gam... In Chinese http://tech.qq.com/a/20170319/015726.htm http://tech.qq.com/a/20170319/015726.htm https://www.huxiu.com/article/186238.html https://www.huxiu.com/article/186238.html From the second English link: > As Tencent’s tech blog explains (link in Chinese), FineArts works in a similar way to AlphaGo. Both AIs comprise two computer systems modeled on the human brain, which can be trained on large data sets. One part of the system, the “policy network,” predicts which of the possible moves are the likeliest to be played. The other, the “value network,” then evaluates which of those is likeliest to win

albertzeyer 9y ago
Ah, so Tencent is a company. "Chinese tech giant Tencent". They did QQ and WeChat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent It seems as if they are even bigger than Baidu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu) which is maybe more known (at least by me). It seems this is the website of the group (the Tencent AI lab) which developed the FineArt Go bot: http://ai.tencent.com/ailab/ http://ai.tencent.com/ailab/ Here some article from Tencent about their Go bot (in Chinese): http://ai.tencent.com/ailab/%E5%86%8D%E5%88%9B%E4%BD%B3%E7%BB%A9%E8%85%BE%E8%AE%AF%E5%9B%B4%E6%A3%8BAI%E2%80%9C%E7%BB%9D%E8%89%BA%E2%80%9D%E7%94%B5%E5%9C%A3%E6%88%98%E5%A4%BA%E5%86%A0.html http://ai.tencent.com/ailab/%E5%86%8D%E5%88%9B%E4%BD%B3%E7%B... There is also a Wikipedia article about the Fine Art Go bot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine_Art_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine_Art_(software) Along the line, I also read about DeepZenGo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(software)
- Cookingboy 9y ago
  Tencent is huge, they also own League of Legends and recently just made a $1B investment in Tesla. The only comparable Chinese tech company is Alibaba.