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The other western nations can afford to spend more on their safety net because of the military strength of america and the protection it provides against foreig

The other western nations can afford to spend more on their safety net because of the military strength of america and the protection it provides against foreign invaders. America defeated japan essentially by itself while providing enough food and supplied to keep the russian army alive while also providing the majority of the military strength to the western front, essentially being the primary factor in the defeat of fascism. As for communism, it was the us vs ussr while Europe and China and japan rebuilt after the destruction of world War 2, again, the us provided the bulk of the force against communism. Your statement about the rest of the world doing more to save the world from fascism and communism is blatantly false.

flukus 9y ago
> America defeated japan essentially by itself while providing enough food and supplied to keep the russian army alive while also providing the majority of the military strength to the western front, essentially being the primary factor in the defeat of fascism. Where to start? The US did most of the work in beating Japan but they also got a lot of help from Russia toward the end. Once Japan had lost Manchuria to the Russians they gave up on a conditional surrender, they had nothing to bargain for. And the primary factor in defeating fascism? If it wasn't for the British holding out in the west that front would have been lost before you guys even got involved. But more importantly on the Eastern front, the tide had already turned before lend lease to Russia made any difference. It sped the war up but it didn't decide it.
- Turing_Machine 9y ago
  "Once Japan had lost Manchuria to the Russians they gave up on a conditional surrender, they had nothing to bargain for." Most people think that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was what made Japan surrender unconditionally, not the loss of Manchuria. "But more importantly on the Eastern front, the tide had already turned before lend lease to Russia made any difference." I'm sorry, that is simply not correct. The Lend-Lease pipeline was in full operation by early 1942, well before the tide turned at the Battle of Stalingrad in early 1943. In fact, the Germans moved on Stalingrad specifically to disrupt the Persian Corridor portion of the Lend Lease operation.
  - flukus 9y ago
    > Most people think that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was what made Japan surrender unconditionally, not the loss of Manchuria. Most people have never even heard of the battle of Manchuria. Japan were already putting out feelers for a peace before either, they new they couldn't win by then. They'd already had cities destroyed by conventional weapons, the nukes weren't that big a deal. > I'm sorry, that is simply not correct. The Lend-Lease pipeline was in full operation by early 1942, well before the tide turned at the Battle of Stalingrad in early 1943. In fact, the Germans moved on Stalingrad specifically to disrupt the Persian Corridor portion of the Lend Lease operation. First of all, much of the early contribution was british and Canadian rather than American (http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-...). Lend lease was under way but no where near the total contributions (https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/BigL/BigL-5.html https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/BigL/BigL-5.html), chart 6 has a yearly breakdown. The biggest effect was that it allowed the USSR to counter attack after Stalingrad because they didn't have to throw everything into defending the city.

flukus 9y ago

> America defeated japan essentially by itself while providing enough food and supplied to keep the russian army alive while also providing the majority of the military strength to the western front, essentially being the primary factor in the defeat of fascism. Where to start? The US did most of the work in beating Japan but they also got a lot of help from Russia toward the end. Once Japan had lost Manchuria to the Russians they gave up on a conditional surrender, they had nothing to bargain for. And the primary factor in defeating fascism? If it wasn't for the British holding out in the west that front would have been lost before you guys even got involved. But more importantly on the Eastern front, the tide had already turned before lend lease to Russia made any difference. It sped the war up but it didn't decide it.

Turing_Machine 9y ago
"Once Japan had lost Manchuria to the Russians they gave up on a conditional surrender, they had nothing to bargain for." Most people think that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was what made Japan surrender unconditionally, not the loss of Manchuria. "But more importantly on the Eastern front, the tide had already turned before lend lease to Russia made any difference." I'm sorry, that is simply not correct. The Lend-Lease pipeline was in full operation by early 1942, well before the tide turned at the Battle of Stalingrad in early 1943. In fact, the Germans moved on Stalingrad specifically to disrupt the Persian Corridor portion of the Lend Lease operation.
- flukus 9y ago
  > Most people think that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was what made Japan surrender unconditionally, not the loss of Manchuria. Most people have never even heard of the battle of Manchuria. Japan were already putting out feelers for a peace before either, they new they couldn't win by then. They'd already had cities destroyed by conventional weapons, the nukes weren't that big a deal. > I'm sorry, that is simply not correct. The Lend-Lease pipeline was in full operation by early 1942, well before the tide turned at the Battle of Stalingrad in early 1943. In fact, the Germans moved on Stalingrad specifically to disrupt the Persian Corridor portion of the Lend Lease operation. First of all, much of the early contribution was british and Canadian rather than American (http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-...). Lend lease was under way but no where near the total contributions (https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/BigL/BigL-5.html https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/BigL/BigL-5.html), chart 6 has a yearly breakdown. The biggest effect was that it allowed the USSR to counter attack after Stalingrad because they didn't have to throw everything into defending the city.