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Is this the modern CCNA/CCNP/CCIE Cisco Certs? Anyone have those? How did it help/impact you?

tbrock 9y ago
I had a CCNA, it helped me zero (maybe hurt me in the long run). In my experience interviewers for software engineering positions at large companies view certifications as a negative signal.
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- alexchantavy 9y ago
  >view certifications as a negative signal I wonder why that is; maybe because they associate certs with IT-specialists vs developers? Although now that many companies are going "devops", maybe IT certs in addition to a development background could be a positive signal.
  - WrtCdEvrydy 9y ago
    Remember devops is considered to be a "cost saving measure", I just keep the certs off my resume and just put the skills I learned.
  - jpgvm 9y ago
    It's not just that they are associated with people that can't code. Though that is definitely part of it. It's mostly that they are associated with a style of building systems that is considered antiquated, expensive and closed minded. This stems from a few things but I imagine the VC* (VMWare) and CISSP are probably the 2 that have contributed most to this mindset. CCN* (Cisco) could also be considered a problem but less so.
  - manigandham 9y ago
    Often certs are listed without any actual relevant experience, otherwise that would be listed instead. If you have both, it can still be seen as time that could've been better spent than taking a test. Also this varies widely with the company/HR team you're dealing with.
bradknowles 9y ago
There are a lot of certifications in the industry that aren't worth the paper they're printed on. But, they make a nice way for HR departments to eliminate people who don't meet the minimum requirements. But Cisco certs have historically been very high value. You actually have to know quite a bit of computer networking to be good enough to pass the exams. So, it all comes down to how good the exams are, and how good you have to be in order to pass them. I haven't seen any of the AWS certs, so I can't speak for any of them. But IMO, reaching the level of quality set by Cisco would be a very high mark, indeed.

I had a CCNA, it helped me zero (maybe hurt me in the long run). In my experience interviewers for software engineering positions at large companies view certifications as a negative signal.

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alexchantavy 9y ago
>view certifications as a negative signal I wonder why that is; maybe because they associate certs with IT-specialists vs developers? Although now that many companies are going "devops", maybe IT certs in addition to a development background could be a positive signal.
- WrtCdEvrydy 9y ago
  Remember devops is considered to be a "cost saving measure", I just keep the certs off my resume and just put the skills I learned.
- jpgvm 9y ago
  It's not just that they are associated with people that can't code. Though that is definitely part of it. It's mostly that they are associated with a style of building systems that is considered antiquated, expensive and closed minded. This stems from a few things but I imagine the VC* (VMWare) and CISSP are probably the 2 that have contributed most to this mindset. CCN* (Cisco) could also be considered a problem but less so.
- manigandham 9y ago
  Often certs are listed without any actual relevant experience, otherwise that would be listed instead. If you have both, it can still be seen as time that could've been better spent than taking a test. Also this varies widely with the company/HR team you're dealing with.

bradknowles 9y ago

There are a lot of certifications in the industry that aren't worth the paper they're printed on. But, they make a nice way for HR departments to eliminate people who don't meet the minimum requirements. But Cisco certs have historically been very high value. You actually have to know quite a bit of computer networking to be good enough to pass the exams. So, it all comes down to how good the exams are, and how good you have to be in order to pass them. I haven't seen any of the AWS certs, so I can't speak for any of them. But IMO, reaching the level of quality set by Cisco would be a very high mark, indeed.