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Hey look, a security crisis that can only be fixed by requiring that we prove our devices are functional, most likely by turning them on, logging in, and showin
by koenigdavidmj 9y ago
Hey look, a security crisis that can only be fixed by requiring that we prove our devices are functional, most likely by turning them on, logging in, and showing that there are a few documents present. And in some cases, extra manual evaluation will be required, entailing taking that logged-in laptop into a back room for further inspection. They won't copy everything onto a disk of their own---honest!
- tsaoutourpants 9y agoVeraCrypt (f/k/a TrueCrypt) is your friend!
- tantalor 9y agoSee also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Making_false_statements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Making_false_statements
- tsaoutourpants 9y agoSee also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_...
- jakobdabo 9y agoSee also: https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
- tsaoutourpants 9y agoThe Fifth Amendment still applies in the "constitution free zone." The name is a bit exaggerated by the ACLU to make their point. No matter where you are, the U.S.government cannot force you to speak as a condition of flying home. Just be quiet rather than deceitful.
- kmonsen 9y agoI don't think this is true. If some government agent tells the pilot you are a "security risk" for any reason you are not going on that plane or if you are already in it they will drag you out. The plane is a private property so you can be taken of for any reason.
- openasocket 9y agoFor international travel the US doesn't have any say over who's flying to them from some other country. Though if you're a known terrorist or something be prepared to be arrested once you land. And once they've landed you can be dragged off the plane, but if you're a US citizen then cannot deport you. They can take you to prison, but not to another country.
- tsaoutourpants 9y agoRespectfully, you are mistaken. Private airlines are "common carriers" and are required to play nice with the public, and you're conflating "whether the private carrier wouldn't want to take you" with "whether US CBP wants to see the contents of your laptop." I actually filed suit over the former back in 2015. AA told me they wouldn't let me fly home unless I answered their "security questions." The case was resolved quickly when everyone (AA and DHS) did an about-face and said whoever told me I wouldn't be allowed to fly was mistaken. https://professional-troublemaker.com/2015/02/23/corbett-sues-tsa-over-international-security-interview-program/ https://professional-troublemaker.com/2015/02/23/corbett-sue... The US may not refuse entry to its own citizens, even if they insist on remaining silent. They can detain you to be searched on arrival, but they must, after completing that search, admit you to the country.
- CamperBob2 9y agoNo matter where you are, the U.S.government cannot force you... They have more guns than you do. That means that any statement beginning with the words above is wrong, no matter what comes after those words.
- rtkwe 9y agoEven forcing people to turn on devices doesn't really fix it. Just keep three (for proper voltage so you don't have to add any boost circuitry) of the cells in your battery bomb and it'll be more than enough to pass their screening.
- koenigdavidmj 9y agoWhether this actually helps security is irrelevant.
- cstejerean 9y agoI've already had to do this on several occasions of flying into the US before the laptop ban. There were signs at the airport saying that all electronic devices being brought on board had to had sufficient power to be turned on to be checked. I've also seem similar signs at courtrooms in the US for checking cell phones when going through security. It seems like a more sensible approach than banning the entire laptop.