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Why You Should Adopt HTML5 Now

25 points by abrudtkuhl 16y ago

IgorPartola 16y ago
And most of all, it's easy when you are starting a project from scratch. Then again, Douglas Crockford describes HTML5 as a "giant step in the wrong direction".
- AndyKelley 16y ago
  he's just complaining about XSS.
Timmy_C 16y ago
He didn't explain HOW "HTML5 videos are more searchable and indexable." Is there an attribute or property that search engines pick up that isn't available when you embed flash? A lot of the best additions in HTML5 are in the DOM. Search engines don't run JavaScripts so it doesn't seem like HTML5 adds much in the way of on-page optimization. Maybe the new section tags will have a benefit but this article wasn't about those tags.
- deleted 16y ago
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- smwhreyebelong 16y ago
  Search engines couldn't run Javascript but I don't that's the case anymore : http://www.labnol.org/internet/search/googlebot-executes-javascript-on-web-pages/8040/ http://www.labnol.org/internet/search/googlebot-executes-jav...
Xixi 16y ago
Well maybe the author should start to adopt HTML5, before asking others to do so... I get a nice "Missing Plug-in" in the middle of the page !
adriand 16y ago
I've been working on HTML5 video features on a website for several days now. I'm finding that an 800x450 (16:9) video at good quality plays smoothly (perfectly, in fact) when using a Flash player, but is choppy and slow in Safari using the HTML5 video tag. I've tried various bitrate, buffer, and quality settings, without any improvement. As a result, I'm now working on using Flash to play the video in all cases except when Flash does not exist, because this is just not working out for me. Maybe I'm just not doing it right, but it beats me what the issue is.
- lokni 16y ago
  Are you resizing the video at all in the browser? When messing around with it, I found that I could play 720p video with the video tag smoothly without any formatting in Chrome and Firefox, but that setting it's size attributes to something other than the actual file size made it slow to the point of being unwatchable.
aliston 16y ago
Can anyone point me in the right direction as to the current thinking on how to create backwards compatible HTML 5 pages? I'd like to take advantage where possible, but not leave older browsers in the dark...
- telemachos 16y ago
  Feature detection is the way to go as far as I understand. See the relevant chapter from Mark Pilgrim's Dive into HMTL5, for a start. He uses Modernizr to do the detecting: http://www.modernizr.com/ http://www.modernizr.com/. http://diveintohtml5.org/detect.html http://diveintohtml5.org/detect.html
saturdayplace 16y ago
Should be titled "Why You Should Adopt HTML5 Video Now." HTML5 includes a lot more than <video>.
AndyKelley 16y ago
The guy in the video said the content would "literally pull me in." I quickly closed the tab because I didn't want to get stuck inside my computer.
ergo98 16y ago
This is horrific SEO-targeting spam. That HN fell for it honestly surprises me. Seriously the first paragraph was enough to know it was garbage, and each word following pounded that home.

25 points by abrudtkuhl 16y ago

And most of all, it's easy when you are starting a project from scratch. Then again, Douglas Crockford describes HTML5 as a "giant step in the wrong direction".

AndyKelley 16y ago
he's just complaining about XSS.

Timmy_C 16y ago

He didn't explain HOW "HTML5 videos are more searchable and indexable." Is there an attribute or property that search engines pick up that isn't available when you embed flash? A lot of the best additions in HTML5 are in the DOM. Search engines don't run JavaScripts so it doesn't seem like HTML5 adds much in the way of on-page optimization. Maybe the new section tags will have a benefit but this article wasn't about those tags.

deleted 16y ago
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smwhreyebelong 16y ago
Search engines couldn't run Javascript but I don't that's the case anymore : http://www.labnol.org/internet/search/googlebot-executes-javascript-on-web-pages/8040/ http://www.labnol.org/internet/search/googlebot-executes-jav...

Xixi 16y ago

Well maybe the author should start to adopt HTML5, before asking others to do so... I get a nice "Missing Plug-in" in the middle of the page !

adriand 16y ago

I've been working on HTML5 video features on a website for several days now. I'm finding that an 800x450 (16:9) video at good quality plays smoothly (perfectly, in fact) when using a Flash player, but is choppy and slow in Safari using the HTML5 video tag. I've tried various bitrate, buffer, and quality settings, without any improvement. As a result, I'm now working on using Flash to play the video in all cases except when Flash does not exist, because this is just not working out for me. Maybe I'm just not doing it right, but it beats me what the issue is.

lokni 16y ago
Are you resizing the video at all in the browser? When messing around with it, I found that I could play 720p video with the video tag smoothly without any formatting in Chrome and Firefox, but that setting it's size attributes to something other than the actual file size made it slow to the point of being unwatchable.

aliston 16y ago

Can anyone point me in the right direction as to the current thinking on how to create backwards compatible HTML 5 pages? I'd like to take advantage where possible, but not leave older browsers in the dark...

telemachos 16y ago
Feature detection is the way to go as far as I understand. See the relevant chapter from Mark Pilgrim's Dive into HMTL5, for a start. He uses Modernizr to do the detecting: http://www.modernizr.com/ http://www.modernizr.com/. http://diveintohtml5.org/detect.html http://diveintohtml5.org/detect.html

saturdayplace 16y ago

Should be titled "Why You Should Adopt HTML5 Video Now." HTML5 includes a lot more than <video>.

AndyKelley 16y ago

The guy in the video said the content would "literally pull me in." I quickly closed the tab because I didn't want to get stuck inside my computer.

ergo98 16y ago

This is horrific SEO-targeting spam. That HN fell for it honestly surprises me. Seriously the first paragraph was enough to know it was garbage, and each word following pounded that home.