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I'm not being blocked. Are you sure that your ISP isn't blocking the website?

droithomme 9y ago
When I click on the link it says I need to purchase a $39.99/year or $3.99/month subscription to view the article. (So weird someone is downvoting my posts about this, what possible reason could there be to do such a thing.)
- acover 9y ago
  One reason: excluding all paid journalism seems dumb.
  - droithomme 9y ago
    Ad hominems are fallacies.
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]
    - philbarr 9y ago
      I've come to think that quoting latin phrases at people is in itself a logical fallacy. Is there a latin phrase for that?
- grzm 9y ago
  HN has established guidelines with respect to paywalls. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html > Are paywalls ok? > It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds. > In comments, it's ok to ask how to read an article and to help other users do so. But please don't post complaints about paywalls. Those are off topic. Like your parent, I haven't had any issues ever accessing submissions from the Atlantic. Of course, that doesn't mean, that you're not having issues. Just today someone mentioned that they're able to access WSJ articles using the web link, while I'm not able to do so. With respect to this (and other submissions from the Atlantic Monthly), I've never needed to use the web link. Submissions from the Atlantic Monthly are quite frequent on HN. I can't recall reading of anyone else having issues. Does the "web" link (beneath the submission title between the "past" and "comments" links) work for you?
- shubhamjain 9y ago
  Probably because you have AdBlock installed. The Atlantic has a soft paywall.
  - ryandrake 9y ago
    Correct. If you have an ad blocker installed, you get the paywall. I simply ignore theatlantic.com links and go on with my life.
    - shubhamjain 9y ago
      Rather uncharitable, no? The Atlantic doesn't bombard visitor with ads; they are considerate in maintaining the user experience. If people are reluctant to take a paid subscription, and consider Adblocking as righteous, how many options are left for publishers to monetise?
      - grzm 9y ago
        The Atlantic is willing to provide their content on terms of subscription or viewing ads. Your parent chooses not to accept those terms and not view their content. 'ryandrake isn't expressing an expectation that the Atlantic provide content without ads and without a subscription and is willing to not have access to the Atlantic content. This seems completely reasonable and fair to me.
      - JKCalhoun 9y ago
        Ads and trackers... I don't mind helping out The Atlantic but their advertisers want more than just to serve me up links and visuals, they want to harvest my browsing history.
      - ryandrake 9y ago
        Wait, let me get this straight: It's uncharitable to choose not to visit a web site due to not agreeing to its terms?
      - SpoilerAlert 9y ago
        It's called Patreon. It's the only choice. Or they will be blocked, period.

When I click on the link it says I need to purchase a $39.99/year or $3.99/month subscription to view the article. (So weird someone is downvoting my posts about this, what possible reason could there be to do such a thing.)

acover 9y ago
One reason: excluding all paid journalism seems dumb.
- droithomme 9y ago
  Ad hominems are fallacies.
  - deleted 9y ago
    [deleted]
  - philbarr 9y ago
    I've come to think that quoting latin phrases at people is in itself a logical fallacy. Is there a latin phrase for that?
grzm 9y ago
HN has established guidelines with respect to paywalls. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html > Are paywalls ok? > It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds. > In comments, it's ok to ask how to read an article and to help other users do so. But please don't post complaints about paywalls. Those are off topic. Like your parent, I haven't had any issues ever accessing submissions from the Atlantic. Of course, that doesn't mean, that you're not having issues. Just today someone mentioned that they're able to access WSJ articles using the web link, while I'm not able to do so. With respect to this (and other submissions from the Atlantic Monthly), I've never needed to use the web link. Submissions from the Atlantic Monthly are quite frequent on HN. I can't recall reading of anyone else having issues. Does the "web" link (beneath the submission title between the "past" and "comments" links) work for you?
shubhamjain 9y ago
Probably because you have AdBlock installed. The Atlantic has a soft paywall.
- ryandrake 9y ago
  Correct. If you have an ad blocker installed, you get the paywall. I simply ignore theatlantic.com links and go on with my life.
  - shubhamjain 9y ago
    Rather uncharitable, no? The Atlantic doesn't bombard visitor with ads; they are considerate in maintaining the user experience. If people are reluctant to take a paid subscription, and consider Adblocking as righteous, how many options are left for publishers to monetise?
    - grzm 9y ago
      The Atlantic is willing to provide their content on terms of subscription or viewing ads. Your parent chooses not to accept those terms and not view their content. 'ryandrake isn't expressing an expectation that the Atlantic provide content without ads and without a subscription and is willing to not have access to the Atlantic content. This seems completely reasonable and fair to me.
    - JKCalhoun 9y ago
      Ads and trackers... I don't mind helping out The Atlantic but their advertisers want more than just to serve me up links and visuals, they want to harvest my browsing history.
    - ryandrake 9y ago
      Wait, let me get this straight: It's uncharitable to choose not to visit a web site due to not agreeing to its terms?
    - SpoilerAlert 9y ago
      It's called Patreon. It's the only choice. Or they will be blocked, period.