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What kind of places do you look to find this kind of stuff? I'm based in Melbourne, so I'm not sure how different it is, but last time I looked into it the work

What kind of places do you look to find this kind of stuff? I'm based in Melbourne, so I'm not sure how different it is, but last time I looked into it the work on offer seemed overwhelmingly based around inexperienced devs working on shoddy PHP/Wordpress sites for far below minimum wage.

learc83 9y ago
Upwork and various sites like it have plenty of people making way above minimum wage. You have to spend some time sorting through the nonsense, but it's there. If you're in North America, speak fluent English, and you can actually program, steady jobs in the $20-$30 an hour range are easy to find. (note that if you're a decent developer living in North America, I wouldn't advise working for those rates unless you have a specific reason to, e.g., you want easy jobs that are easy to find or you really need money now. Living in Melbourne it might be a bit harder because of the time zone difference you lose a bit of the advantage North American developers have over eastern Europe, India, and other low cost of living countries. I still think it's probably doable. There are jobs on those sites paying decent developer wages as well, but those are harder to come by. I did a bit of work on Upwork and other sites before I started finding work through the Hacker News find a freelancer and upped my rates to $100 an hour.
- wapz 9y ago
  Do you have any experience doing this? I've done lots of work in Unity and Android/iOS but mostly making games (70-75%). I looked at upwork and all the posts for game-related material looked terrible. I prefer to not make games but that's what I'm best at right now. Would it still be easy to get into? Or do you recommend getting good at front end, fullstack, or anything else? I do like to learn so that won't be a problem.
  - learc83 9y ago
    I can't imagine that upwork is any good for game programming. You're better of finding full-stack and front-end jobs. Like I said though, I don't actually encourage anyone to work for $20-$30/hour unless they're living in a low cost of living country or have some other compelling reason. You can find people willing to pay $50+/hour on upwork (or at least you could the last time I looked a year or two ago), but you'll have to spend a lot of time searching.

learc83 9y ago

Upwork and various sites like it have plenty of people making way above minimum wage. You have to spend some time sorting through the nonsense, but it's there. If you're in North America, speak fluent English, and you can actually program, steady jobs in the $20-$30 an hour range are easy to find. (note that if you're a decent developer living in North America, I wouldn't advise working for those rates unless you have a specific reason to, e.g., you want easy jobs that are easy to find or you really need money now. Living in Melbourne it might be a bit harder because of the time zone difference you lose a bit of the advantage North American developers have over eastern Europe, India, and other low cost of living countries. I still think it's probably doable. There are jobs on those sites paying decent developer wages as well, but those are harder to come by. I did a bit of work on Upwork and other sites before I started finding work through the Hacker News find a freelancer and upped my rates to $100 an hour.

wapz 9y ago
Do you have any experience doing this? I've done lots of work in Unity and Android/iOS but mostly making games (70-75%). I looked at upwork and all the posts for game-related material looked terrible. I prefer to not make games but that's what I'm best at right now. Would it still be easy to get into? Or do you recommend getting good at front end, fullstack, or anything else? I do like to learn so that won't be a problem.
- learc83 9y ago
  I can't imagine that upwork is any good for game programming. You're better of finding full-stack and front-end jobs. Like I said though, I don't actually encourage anyone to work for $20-$30/hour unless they're living in a low cost of living country or have some other compelling reason. You can find people willing to pay $50+/hour on upwork (or at least you could the last time I looked a year or two ago), but you'll have to spend a lot of time searching.