> In California at least, it's technically a motorcycle if it goes past 20 mph No longer true! New laws [0] went into effect at the beginning of this year. T

> In California at least, it's technically a motorcycle if it goes past 20 mph No longer true! New laws [0] went into effect at the beginning of this year. There is now such a thing as a Class 3 e-bike that can provide assistance up to 28mph. (I find that's about as fast as I want to go anyway.) When I have to mix it up with cars, the extra speed is a big help. As for weight, it's really a matter of how much money you want to spend. My e-bike is a converted touring bike, with an EcoSpeed mid-drive, and the weight is very reasonable. I usually bike in to work using leg power (there's a shower at the office) and cruise home with the motor in the evening. There's probably somebody building e-bikes that are also good bicycles; if not, do your own conversion. -- Oh! I just went to the Gigabyke web site. Those aren't e-bikes; those are electric mopeds! Maybe technically they can get away with calling them e-bikes, but they obviously have much heavier frames and wheels. 180 lb, yikes! Okay, I just weighed my bike, and it's 54 lb with battery -- certainly not light by bicycle standards, but entirely tolerable for pedaling. My bike has a steel frame, so I have no trouble with traffic light sensors. I'm very surprised you do, with 180 lb of metal underneath you! [0] https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1096 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml...