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Much as I detest its politics, the Mail is the most visited English-language newspaper site in the world, to be fair.

algesten 9y ago
Yes, and gangnam style is the most viewed youtube clip ever. Daily mail is not bad because of politics but because it's exploitative, sensationalist, devoid of empathy and does absolutely _anything_ to get a click/view/reader. It stands for nothing, there are no standards, nothing is too low and no story too sensitive to bulldoze.
- xyzzy_plugh 9y ago
  Are you suggesting that Gangnam style is anything but catchy, entertaining, and brilliant satire? I don't think these two things are similar in the way I suspect you believe, other than that they are popular.
  - algesten 9y ago
    The point I was making was that popularity does not equal quality. This doesn't mean I think gangnam style is particularly bad, but is it the best? I think very little can be gaged from the amount of views something gets on the internet, be it the daily mail or gangnam style.
    - nqzero 9y ago
      gangnam style is a deeply insightful (though i don't know myself if it is accurate) critique of korean culture. it's not necessarily popular because it's insightful, but definitely a bad analogy in your case
- zeristor 9y ago
  My Dad always used to point out that it was the only paper that campaigned for Stephen Lawrence to bring to light institutional racism in the Met Police. Not a minor issue by any means, absurdly here's a link to the Guardian write up on it. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jan/04/stephen-lawrence-parents-daily-mail https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jan/04/stephen-lawren...
  - fnord123 9y ago
    Broken clock correct sometimes. News at 11.
  - bonaldi 9y ago
    It did that because a relative of Lawrence knew Dacre (the editor) having been employed as a tradesman by him. Given the near-racist tone of some of their other coverage of black crime in London, I put this one in the "oh I don't mean you, I know you, you're fine, it's all the other ones I have a problem with" corner.
wcummings 9y ago
I detest its politics, but I love reading the nypost... Papers like this are as much for entertainment as they are for news.
- falsedan 9y ago
  Papers have a social duty to represent the goings-on of the world to their readers. If they're publishing fabricated stories 'for the lols', then I feel they should be clearly marked/presented as substantially different to the newspapers who do fact-based reporting. Oh, that story where we called you a child-molesting tax-dodging illegal refugee? That was clearly a joke! Private Eye manages to both entertain and inform, but it's very dry.
XJOKOLAT 9y ago
Archaeologically, in the centuries to come, this will either explain a lot, or condemn us. Excuse my colourful language, the DM is a shit newspaper ... understandably excluded from fact based discussions.

Yes, and gangnam style is the most viewed youtube clip ever. Daily mail is not bad because of politics but because it's exploitative, sensationalist, devoid of empathy and does absolutely _anything_ to get a click/view/reader. It stands for nothing, there are no standards, nothing is too low and no story too sensitive to bulldoze.

xyzzy_plugh 9y ago
Are you suggesting that Gangnam style is anything but catchy, entertaining, and brilliant satire? I don't think these two things are similar in the way I suspect you believe, other than that they are popular.
- algesten 9y ago
  The point I was making was that popularity does not equal quality. This doesn't mean I think gangnam style is particularly bad, but is it the best? I think very little can be gaged from the amount of views something gets on the internet, be it the daily mail or gangnam style.
  - nqzero 9y ago
    gangnam style is a deeply insightful (though i don't know myself if it is accurate) critique of korean culture. it's not necessarily popular because it's insightful, but definitely a bad analogy in your case
zeristor 9y ago
My Dad always used to point out that it was the only paper that campaigned for Stephen Lawrence to bring to light institutional racism in the Met Police. Not a minor issue by any means, absurdly here's a link to the Guardian write up on it. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jan/04/stephen-lawrence-parents-daily-mail https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jan/04/stephen-lawren...
- fnord123 9y ago
  Broken clock correct sometimes. News at 11.
- bonaldi 9y ago
  It did that because a relative of Lawrence knew Dacre (the editor) having been employed as a tradesman by him. Given the near-racist tone of some of their other coverage of black crime in London, I put this one in the "oh I don't mean you, I know you, you're fine, it's all the other ones I have a problem with" corner.

wcummings 9y ago

I detest its politics, but I love reading the nypost... Papers like this are as much for entertainment as they are for news.

falsedan 9y ago
Papers have a social duty to represent the goings-on of the world to their readers. If they're publishing fabricated stories 'for the lols', then I feel they should be clearly marked/presented as substantially different to the newspapers who do fact-based reporting. Oh, that story where we called you a child-molesting tax-dodging illegal refugee? That was clearly a joke! Private Eye manages to both entertain and inform, but it's very dry.

XJOKOLAT 9y ago

Archaeologically, in the centuries to come, this will either explain a lot, or condemn us. Excuse my colourful language, the DM is a shit newspaper ... understandably excluded from fact based discussions.