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Ancestry.com takes DNA ownership rights from customers and their relatives

45 points by CrankyBear 9y ago

nthcolumn 9y ago
In which case their t&cs are void as we are all genetic relatives of each other and they would have to gain consent from everyone on the planet and I do not consent.
jack9 9y ago
> 1. Perpetual, royalty-free, worldwide license to use your DNA Not every contract clause is valid. This could be challenged in court and as you cannot authorize the licensing of your DNA after your death, I'm not sure how anyone would think this is an iron clad issue.
- nthcolumn 9y ago
  Somebody somewhere thought however specious that it would be a good idea to put that in. Ugh these people disgust me. I used to worry about acquaintances joining facebook and allowing it plough through their address book, now this!
jlgaddis 9y ago
Ancestry.com, today, issued a response which refutes some of the claims in this article: "Setting the Record Straight: Ancestry and Your DNA" [0]. [0]: https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2017/05/21/setting-the-record-straight-ancestry-and-your-dna/ https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2017/05/21/setting-the-r...
- heroprotagonist 9y ago
  And yet, at the end of the day, it doesn't refute the overly inclusive legalese. If they are not going to back up any of their claims with proper legal limits, then I can't trust any of what came before that in the post. From your linked post: > I don’t like the legal language on this issue because it can be confusing and seem overly broad, but it’s what’s necessary for us to do the work we do for you. They are not going to change their legal rights, but they want to smooth ruffled feathers. In a year, or five years, when leadership changes or the company is acquired.. there's nothing to protect me.
midnitewarrior 9y ago
So what happens if I get a DNA test with them, then I become a famous actor? Can they clone me in the future to bring my likeness back to the screen and make money off of my reputation?
stuaxo 9y ago
Are the Ts and Cs the same in Europe? I'm not sure all of this would be legal?

45 points by CrankyBear 9y ago

In which case their t&cs are void as we are all genetic relatives of each other and they would have to gain consent from everyone on the planet and I do not consent.

jack9 9y ago

> 1. Perpetual, royalty-free, worldwide license to use your DNA Not every contract clause is valid. This could be challenged in court and as you cannot authorize the licensing of your DNA after your death, I'm not sure how anyone would think this is an iron clad issue.

nthcolumn 9y ago
Somebody somewhere thought however specious that it would be a good idea to put that in. Ugh these people disgust me. I used to worry about acquaintances joining facebook and allowing it plough through their address book, now this!

jlgaddis 9y ago

Ancestry.com, today, issued a response which refutes some of the claims in this article: "Setting the Record Straight: Ancestry and Your DNA" [0]. [0]: https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2017/05/21/setting-the-record-straight-ancestry-and-your-dna/ https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2017/05/21/setting-the-r...

heroprotagonist 9y ago
And yet, at the end of the day, it doesn't refute the overly inclusive legalese. If they are not going to back up any of their claims with proper legal limits, then I can't trust any of what came before that in the post. From your linked post: > I don’t like the legal language on this issue because it can be confusing and seem overly broad, but it’s what’s necessary for us to do the work we do for you. They are not going to change their legal rights, but they want to smooth ruffled feathers. In a year, or five years, when leadership changes or the company is acquired.. there's nothing to protect me.

midnitewarrior 9y ago

So what happens if I get a DNA test with them, then I become a famous actor? Can they clone me in the future to bring my likeness back to the screen and make money off of my reputation?

stuaxo 9y ago

Are the Ts and Cs the same in Europe? I'm not sure all of this would be legal?