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I stopped all Windows updates on my laptop because I use it mainly before going to bed to watch some videos and read a bit, and the constant updates and forced

by Kenji 9y ago

I stopped all Windows updates on my laptop because I use it mainly before going to bed to watch some videos and read a bit, and the constant updates and forced reboots (forced as in, it just CLOSES EVERYTHING and shuts down) are an incredible nuisance, I don't have that kind of time in the evening. I turn them on once in a while and do a big batch of updates, then I turn them off again.

Pica_soO 9y ago
Downvoted for developer denial of consumer habbits and reeducation camp attitude of most devs towards users.
- Kenji 9y ago
  Funny thing is, I am a developer myself. I just can't be bothered with a machine that auto-reboots all the time. I have no valuable data on that laptop, frankly, I'd rather have a virus every other year than deal with a machine that constantly updates when all I want is prolonged stability.
  - Paradigma11 9y ago
    My 3 Win10 machines reboot maybe 1/month because of updates. This is doable for me. ymmv.
tokenizerrr 9y ago
It only does that if the machine has been on for 24+ hours or so. Shut it down instead of putting it to sleep and you won't have this problem.
- cesarb 9y ago
  Wasn't it Microsoft itself who deemphasized "shut down" in favor of "sleep", by moving the shutdown command to a hard-to-find place? The intention was clear: the computer should be "always on", and a full shutdown should be done rarely, if at all.
  - tokenizerrr 9y ago
    I'm not sure what you mean, both are in the exact same menu.
    - sevensor 9y ago
      I posted a brief rant elsewhere in this thread about a notebook computer that was basically unusable because of Windows. It had been configured at the factory so that the power button didn't actually turn it off. Because it was used infrequently, and because the power button caused it to sleep instead of powering down, this computer always had a dead battery. This particular machine had no sleep indicator light, so to all appearances it was truly turned off. I'm angrier at Microsoft than usual today.
      - WalterGR 9y ago
        It sounds like the manufacturer caused the problems and not Microsoft.
        sevensor 9y ago
        True, this post did a poor job of making my case against Microsoft. My other post in this thread goes into more detail. With regard to power in particular, I'd argue that the "power button means sleep by default" is a terrible idea. By default, the power button should put the system into a state where it's not drawing an appreciable amount of current. Sure, Asus compounded the problem by not providing the computer with a sleep indicator LED, but Microsoft gets a lot of the blame for pushing the idea that we should suspend rather than power off our computers. I can only imagine that they wanted to mitigate their ludicrously terrible startup times.

by Kenji 9y ago

Pica_soO 9y ago

Downvoted for developer denial of consumer habbits and reeducation camp attitude of most devs towards users.

Kenji 9y ago
Funny thing is, I am a developer myself. I just can't be bothered with a machine that auto-reboots all the time. I have no valuable data on that laptop, frankly, I'd rather have a virus every other year than deal with a machine that constantly updates when all I want is prolonged stability.
- Paradigma11 9y ago
  My 3 Win10 machines reboot maybe 1/month because of updates. This is doable for me. ymmv.

tokenizerrr 9y ago

It only does that if the machine has been on for 24+ hours or so. Shut it down instead of putting it to sleep and you won't have this problem.

cesarb 9y ago
Wasn't it Microsoft itself who deemphasized "shut down" in favor of "sleep", by moving the shutdown command to a hard-to-find place? The intention was clear: the computer should be "always on", and a full shutdown should be done rarely, if at all.
- tokenizerrr 9y ago
  I'm not sure what you mean, both are in the exact same menu.
  - sevensor 9y ago
    I posted a brief rant elsewhere in this thread about a notebook computer that was basically unusable because of Windows. It had been configured at the factory so that the power button didn't actually turn it off. Because it was used infrequently, and because the power button caused it to sleep instead of powering down, this computer always had a dead battery. This particular machine had no sleep indicator light, so to all appearances it was truly turned off. I'm angrier at Microsoft than usual today.
    - WalterGR 9y ago
      It sounds like the manufacturer caused the problems and not Microsoft.
      - sevensor 9y ago
        True, this post did a poor job of making my case against Microsoft. My other post in this thread goes into more detail. With regard to power in particular, I'd argue that the "power button means sleep by default" is a terrible idea. By default, the power button should put the system into a state where it's not drawing an appreciable amount of current. Sure, Asus compounded the problem by not providing the computer with a sleep indicator LED, but Microsoft gets a lot of the blame for pushing the idea that we should suspend rather than power off our computers. I can only imagine that they wanted to mitigate their ludicrously terrible startup times.