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It's totally unsupported. If you were not able to just rent the tin and configure this yourself then you're probably not going to be able to maintain it long te

It's totally unsupported. If you were not able to just rent the tin and configure this yourself then you're probably not going to be able to maintain it long term. This product is dangerous and some people will learn that too late.

stemuk 9y ago
As far as I understood it the OpenStack software will be automatically updated on the releases of the LTS channel, so calling the product dangerous seems like an exaggeration to me.
- simplehuman 9y ago
  Have you run openstack? There are million dollar companies out there that just support maintaining any updating openstack for a reason...
  - tyingq 9y ago
    Their list of pieces and parts gives a good insight to how complicated the beast is: https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator#tiles https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator#tiles
- iamacynic 9y ago
  auto-updating openstack on production systems people don't know how to run themselves sounds pretty much like the most dangerous thing you could possibly come up with. why not just hand your systems over to a smart 15 year old kid to run, and go take a nice beachside vacation in the meantime? probably would work out better.
- praneshp 9y ago
  I worked in/on Openstack for 3.5 years. It's next to impossible to run it without patches, so it's questionable if they can do auto-updates on releases of the LTS channel. Someone needs to sit down and migrate patches and remove any breakages.
chrisseaton 9y ago
What do you mean by 'tin'?
- ollybee 9y ago
  Physical servers, with an implication that it's litrally just the hardware and no service level on top. Similar to when people talk about bare metal servers.
  - chrisseaton 9y ago
    Why 'tin' though? Do you mean tin as in the element tin? Why tin specifically? There's hardly any tin in a server is there? Except for the solder.
    - ollybee 9y ago
      It's as in "tinpot", British slang meaning low value or little importance. For many the detail of the hardware does not matter Eg. "Once the packet hits the tin it's no longer my problem". Also talking about a £50k pile of servers as just "tin that needs to be racked" could be a backhanded way of signalling confidence in the task, where others might be intimidated by the cost of the equipment they are dealing with.

stemuk 9y ago

As far as I understood it the OpenStack software will be automatically updated on the releases of the LTS channel, so calling the product dangerous seems like an exaggeration to me.

simplehuman 9y ago
Have you run openstack? There are million dollar companies out there that just support maintaining any updating openstack for a reason...
- tyingq 9y ago
  Their list of pieces and parts gives a good insight to how complicated the beast is: https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator#tiles https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator#tiles
iamacynic 9y ago
auto-updating openstack on production systems people don't know how to run themselves sounds pretty much like the most dangerous thing you could possibly come up with. why not just hand your systems over to a smart 15 year old kid to run, and go take a nice beachside vacation in the meantime? probably would work out better.
praneshp 9y ago
I worked in/on Openstack for 3.5 years. It's next to impossible to run it without patches, so it's questionable if they can do auto-updates on releases of the LTS channel. Someone needs to sit down and migrate patches and remove any breakages.

chrisseaton 9y ago

What do you mean by 'tin'?

ollybee 9y ago
Physical servers, with an implication that it's litrally just the hardware and no service level on top. Similar to when people talk about bare metal servers.
- chrisseaton 9y ago
  Why 'tin' though? Do you mean tin as in the element tin? Why tin specifically? There's hardly any tin in a server is there? Except for the solder.
  - ollybee 9y ago
    It's as in "tinpot", British slang meaning low value or little importance. For many the detail of the hardware does not matter Eg. "Once the packet hits the tin it's no longer my problem". Also talking about a £50k pile of servers as just "tin that needs to be racked" could be a backhanded way of signalling confidence in the task, where others might be intimidated by the cost of the equipment they are dealing with.