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I'm sorry but I'm not seeing your logic at all. > King Edward the 7th was the single man most responsible for WW1. I would actually be interested in that one.
by nickik 9y ago
I'm sorry but I'm not seeing your logic at all.
> King Edward the 7th was the single man most responsible for WW1.
I would actually be interested in that one.
I have only heard one person ever to blame Britain for WW1. That person was conspiracy theorist who believed in Anglo-Saxon elite that has a secret plan for world domination and they had it since 1066.
I myself have read quite a lot about WW1 and making Edward the 7th responsible is simply wrong.
- notfromhere 9y agoI mean the conflict only went global when UK decided to enforce Belgian neutrality with a military response. Otherwise, it would have just been a regional war between France, Germany and Russia. The war would have been shorter and UK would have kept its empire for longer. Not like UK intervening in WWI ensured peace or anything
- nickik 9y agoWhen France, Germany, Russia, Austria and maybe possible the Ottoman empire fight a war its defiantly not in any way 'local'. I really don't understand how people can blame Britain for join a war to enforce a treaty that Germany had was a signatory to, and had broken. That seem like evaluation the two power with different moral standards. Britain tried everything in their power to bring people to peace talks, these peace talks were blocked by Germany and Austria. Then Germany is the first to violate borders and Britain eventually joins the war because they had a treaty and because the Germans behaved like animals in Belgium. How can anybody make the argument Britain is at fault here?
- samsonradu 9y agoFrom my understanding the problem was that Germany was growing very strong and threatening Britain's domination. An interesting book about the topic is The Great Illusion By Norman Angell [1] Saying a bunch of students started WW1 is quite absurd. I did find some material pointing fingers at King Edward though, might want to take a look [2] [1] http://www.gutenberg.org/files/38535/38535-h/38535-h.htm http://www.gutenberg.org/files/38535/38535-h/38535-h.htm [2] http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1995/eirv22n13-19950324/eirv22n13-19950324_017-king_edward_vii_evil_demiurge_of.pdf http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1995/eirv22n13-1995032...
- nickik 9y ago> From my understanding the problem was that Germany was growing very strong and threatening Britain's domination. That is an argument often made, but the evidence for it is basically speculation based on pure balance of power theory. There is just one very big problem with that theory. Why would Britain not have the same issue with the US? The US was tracking and even outpacing Germany in growth and population, but Britain was willing to compromise with the US based on reasonable disagreements. Because the US did not overreach, Britain was content with losing influence. The US for example promised not to annex Cuba and signaled that they did not have much interest in further expedition in the east. The also agree on how to deal with South America. Germany on the other hand was different. They essentially tried and did everything to piss everybody off. Britain was in some cases actually prepared to agree with Germany, but Germany behaved so stupidly that they drove them in French hands. Then Germany continued to behave like idiots so that eventually the arch enemies Russia and Britain agree to an alliance even when they had outstanding issues in Persia and other places. Even then, once German soldiers were literally walking threw and destroying Belgium Britain only joined the war on a thin margin in parliament. I really don't see how Britain can be made responsible for any of it. Britain loudly called for peace talks until right before WW1 and Germany/Austria refused any kind of talks. > Saying a bunch of students started WW1 is quite absurd. The caused a geopolitical event who's fallout caused the war. Of course they did not put on German uniforms and walked over the Belgium border. > I did find some material pointing fingers at King Edward though, might want to take a look [2] Seems to me that amounts to about a conspiracy theory. There is this Anglo-saxon elites conspiricy theory going around. Everything that happens was somehow planned and put in place by the British so they could profit form it. I have read multiple very modern books that in detailed researched these diplomatic relationships and not a single modern historian seems to endorse this theory. > An interesting book about the topic is The Great Illusion By Norman Angell [1] He had some good points. His problem was to misunderstand the political economy of the countries. In the autocratic empires the people who have the power to declare and make war are not the same people who mostly profited from the markets. The German and Austrian high officials were part of a separate culture where they actually look down on many business men and the newly rich, all they car about was power and honor. Looking at the Austrians makes this point quite clear, these people were not living in the same world that Angell was outlining. Many German capitalist understood the problem and were against war, but they did not have the required influence. Edit: If you want to read one book on the subject I would recommend "The War that Ended Peace" by the highly respected historian Margaret Macmillan.