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The Chinese government, killing Chinese citizens, is obviously Obama's fault to a certain group of people.

dogruck 9y ago
Perhaps pointing out that if the same happened during the first months of the Trump admin, the NYT would surely repeatedly emphasize Trump?
- wavefunction 9y ago
  Though in Trump's case it would be Trump bragging to Xi Jinping about all the great spies the US has and probably listing off their names.
williamle8300 9y ago
The Hillary servers were so woefully unprotected that we don't even know who/how many foreign actors pranced around her emails and had a hey-day. That's why CIA informants were killed. I would imagine. Previous to Obama's "legacy" the US govt was strict about employing state-of-the-art security for the IT. EDIT: hay-day is actually hey-day
- ChrisClark 9y ago
  Uh, wait, you're a parody account, right? There aren't truly people still shouting 'But her emuls!' anymore, right? Speaking for everyone outside of the US, how did you guys unearth this crazy? Was it always there? If there are still those doing this un-ironically, Trump betrays Israel's secret intel and they cry about emails instead. The mental gymnastics are insane.
- jjoonathan 9y ago
  > EDIT: hay-day is actually hey-day My sides.
jjoonathan 9y ago
I think freshyill got that and was asking if williamle8300 had an actual argument in mind (e.g. Obama supported X policy which prevented the CIA from doing their job effectively in manner Y, precipitating the loss of assets in TFA), or if his comment was just a low-effort "Thanks Obama" knee-jerk based on the conservative "liberals suck at military" yarn. Of course, the answer to that question is just as obvious, but it's a fool's game to meet a low-effort jab with a high-effort, specific reply.
panzer_wyrm 9y ago
He appointed a person that was leaking information after leaking bodily fluids as the chief of CIA. And he got raised eyebrow and stern talking in return. That sends very strong signal about how should be treat secrets. The it is not a big deal narrative about Clinton server also helped in instilling the right sense of respect towards protecting information. If you think that Uber culture problems and failures are Travis' fault, you cannot let Obama off the hook.

Perhaps pointing out that if the same happened during the first months of the Trump admin, the NYT would surely repeatedly emphasize Trump?

wavefunction 9y ago
Though in Trump's case it would be Trump bragging to Xi Jinping about all the great spies the US has and probably listing off their names.

williamle8300 9y ago

The Hillary servers were so woefully unprotected that we don't even know who/how many foreign actors pranced around her emails and had a hey-day. That's why CIA informants were killed. I would imagine. Previous to Obama's "legacy" the US govt was strict about employing state-of-the-art security for the IT. EDIT: hay-day is actually hey-day

ChrisClark 9y ago
Uh, wait, you're a parody account, right? There aren't truly people still shouting 'But her emuls!' anymore, right? Speaking for everyone outside of the US, how did you guys unearth this crazy? Was it always there? If there are still those doing this un-ironically, Trump betrays Israel's secret intel and they cry about emails instead. The mental gymnastics are insane.
jjoonathan 9y ago
> EDIT: hay-day is actually hey-day My sides.

jjoonathan 9y ago

I think freshyill got that and was asking if williamle8300 had an actual argument in mind (e.g. Obama supported X policy which prevented the CIA from doing their job effectively in manner Y, precipitating the loss of assets in TFA), or if his comment was just a low-effort "Thanks Obama" knee-jerk based on the conservative "liberals suck at military" yarn. Of course, the answer to that question is just as obvious, but it's a fool's game to meet a low-effort jab with a high-effort, specific reply.

panzer_wyrm 9y ago

He appointed a person that was leaking information after leaking bodily fluids as the chief of CIA. And he got raised eyebrow and stern talking in return. That sends very strong signal about how should be treat secrets. The it is not a big deal narrative about Clinton server also helped in instilling the right sense of respect towards protecting information. If you think that Uber culture problems and failures are Travis' fault, you cannot let Obama off the hook.