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Trying to play Freeciv I have this "what am I suppose to do in this game" feeling. Not everyone has grown up with this kind of game and there´s no real onboardi

by tangue 9y ago

Trying to play Freeciv I have this "what am I suppose to do in this game" feeling. Not everyone has grown up with this kind of game and there´s no real onboarding. It's a bit sad because I'm sure I might enjoy it

jeeyoungk 9y ago
To be honest, that is how the original civilization games feel like. Very sparse and unfriendly onboarding.
- rangibaby 9y ago
  Civ2 at least had a tutorial game (explained in the paper manual!) and auto "help" ("this looks like a good place to build a city"). The game is pretty hard until you get the hang of it, especially in the version where the AI hates humans.
xmichael99 9y ago
Civ1 was the same, you gotta know the basic hot keys A, S, X if you got them down things get a bit easier.
thomastjeffery 9y ago
My cousins always want to play Civ III, and after several ~10hr games, I still don't really know what I am doing. It's a game of decision-making. Each decision leads you on another branch of the tree. To make it more unpredictable, your decision-tree is mutated by each other player's decision-tree. Like any traversal-oriented game (RPG, etc.), it just takes a lot to understand the effects of your choices, and what goals to make.
- kungtotte 9y ago
  After a few games you kind of get the hang of the initial phase, and some techs are always decent to aim for at first, but the really tricky part is quickly assessing your starting conditions and adapting your goals from that.
roschdal 9y ago
I suggest watching some tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6xBi2JWyZU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6xBi2JWyZU
kzrdude 9y ago
That reminds me of when I got Civilization I for my birthday.
skocznymroczny 9y ago
I don't know about Freeciv, but all other civ games have extensive guidance systems. Game tells you "build your city here", press B to build city, build defensive unit, fortify unit, go explore the terrain, pick this research, build this building". Sure, if you're an advanced player, you can ignore that and go your own way, but as a novice player you can just follow the AI advice and play on a somewhat comfortable level.

by tangue 9y ago

jeeyoungk 9y ago

To be honest, that is how the original civilization games feel like. Very sparse and unfriendly onboarding.

rangibaby 9y ago
Civ2 at least had a tutorial game (explained in the paper manual!) and auto "help" ("this looks like a good place to build a city"). The game is pretty hard until you get the hang of it, especially in the version where the AI hates humans.

xmichael99 9y ago

Civ1 was the same, you gotta know the basic hot keys A, S, X if you got them down things get a bit easier.

thomastjeffery 9y ago

My cousins always want to play Civ III, and after several ~10hr games, I still don't really know what I am doing. It's a game of decision-making. Each decision leads you on another branch of the tree. To make it more unpredictable, your decision-tree is mutated by each other player's decision-tree. Like any traversal-oriented game (RPG, etc.), it just takes a lot to understand the effects of your choices, and what goals to make.

kungtotte 9y ago
After a few games you kind of get the hang of the initial phase, and some techs are always decent to aim for at first, but the really tricky part is quickly assessing your starting conditions and adapting your goals from that.

roschdal 9y ago

I suggest watching some tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6xBi2JWyZU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6xBi2JWyZU

kzrdude 9y ago

That reminds me of when I got Civilization I for my birthday.

skocznymroczny 9y ago

I don't know about Freeciv, but all other civ games have extensive guidance systems. Game tells you "build your city here", press B to build city, build defensive unit, fortify unit, go explore the terrain, pick this research, build this building". Sure, if you're an advanced player, you can ignore that and go your own way, but as a novice player you can just follow the AI advice and play on a somewhat comfortable level.