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This is horrendous - the entire point of the Internet is that it doesn't care, it's an inter-network, and it's only goal is to keep the packets flowing, at lea
by MarkMMullin 9y ago
This is horrendous - the entire point of the Internet is that it doesn't care, it's an inter-network, and it's only goal is to keep the packets flowing, at least when our dear leaders STFU. As someone in and out of machine learning - here's an example - I can litter the downtown with cameras, feed them into an ML cluster and if a child wanders off, it's mere seconds to find them again. Or, as in the great state of Connecticut, I can be so goddamn deranged that I want to put guns on drones, and believe semi-autonomous is a fine opening position. The problem is no matter how impressive the feat in ML, the systems involved have zero understanding of the outcome as a value judgement and they aren't going to gain one for a very long time. Do not teach machines to kill because they have absolutely no understanding of the difference between a beneficial act and a hostile act, they just reduce the error between where they're at and where you told them to be at. Going back to the internet you do not ever ever do this, because then what you are creating is a global censor. Happily for the moment such efforts are both localized and porous but this gaggle of idiots shrieking about terrorists and pedophiles need to SFTU and learn something, before they hatch something much worse.
- ygaf 9y agoPut the drone soapbox away.
- MarkMMullin 9y agoActually I like drones - my point is that no matter how smart it appears, software's still a pretty simple system doing what you told it to do. With what May wants, she will hatch a world where she can put you anywhere (video + ML to implant you), or hell just post online in your id, she can sign it and make it legal in a lot jurisdictions (because she poked a big fat hole in the crypto we use) and then she can use it as a big club on you - she can also control what you see on the internet, meaning she can easily make sure you see only what she wants you to see - and how long do you think that set of tricks really stays secret with 'her' - my point is it's hard enough to get this right, I think at the end of the day Arthur C. Clarke once again had the essence of it - let the 'smart' machine (I rate the internet as a very smart machine) do it's job, keep that job straightforward, the side effects are potentially horrendous.
- anigbrowl 9y agoYou will grow old and die while you are waiting for the general population to learn moral reasoning and com e to its senses. Hackers need to understand that political fights are not won by logic and persuasion because most people don't like thinking. Most people want to have a Good Time when they're young, then Settle Down, Raise Kids, and retire to enjoy a Quiet Life. For the majority of people political issues are an unwelcome distraction from that unchallenging life script and trying to get them all fired up and thinking like you do is guaranteed to be a waste of time.
- ygaf 9y agoYes, these posts aren't connecting with the general populace because the truth is too inconvenient, not because they suffer from any incoherency.
- anigbrowl 9y agoThat's part of it, but it's also a failure of communication. We need to do a better job of appealing to people's emotions as well as their reason.
- ygaf 9y agoI was trying to be sarcastic. Even the OP's second post, is half very insightful (as to May and the future) half irrelevant tangent about machines.