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This will neither work nor result in the expected results. The lines stating that online would be governed the same way as offline life, and access to 'bad' mat

This will neither work nor result in the expected results. The lines stating that online would be governed the same way as offline life, and access to 'bad' materials would be 'just as hard' shows how disconnected from reality that idea is. Access to violence, hate, porn etc. isn't "harder" offline, and bullying on playgrounds isn't actually getting "fixed" at the moment, just it it won't be online. The whole irony is that if the online rules would be implemented and resulting in the same things as offline life, the internet would pretty much remain as-is. Of course, the law and the rules would be allowing for more legal spying and detaining, as well as controlling official narrative, which would have nothing to do with online or offline life and is a whole new thing added on top of the current policy. I hope that if we can just hold off on the crazy orwellian plans and ideas long enough for the old cluster of people in high places to die (of old age), we might actually be able to get the good stuff we created online to actually start fixing the offline problems in governing. That will never happen with the old style people in place, and only time will fix that, since they won't go freely as power is addictive and corrupting (as always).

goodplay 9y ago
> (of old age) I find the need to add this qualifier sad. Normally, any rational adult (children even) would be able to correctly infer your intent from the context, but given how things are these days and the crazy laws being passed, I certainly don't blame you for feeling the need to be specific. See the particularly sad "Special note to law-enforcement agents" on https://sphincs.cr.yp.to/ https://sphincs.cr.yp.to/ . I can't help but feel that things are taking a turn for the worse.
coldtea 9y ago
>I hope that if we can just hold off on the crazy orwellian plans and ideas long enough for the old cluster of people in high places to die (of old age) The phenomenon has nothing much to do with "age". The old people running stuff today said the same thing for the "old timers" (Nixon etc) when they were young, and lots of them were themselves were 60s hippies, rebels, revolutionaries, etc when they were young. See how they turned out? It's not that new generations bring more liberal people, and not even that age changes you. It's power and interests that come into play. Which young persons don't have much, in the same way they don't have a seat in the senate. And when (a few) do, they can be as conservative/exploitive/etc as any 80 year old politician or CEO, etc.

goodplay 9y ago

> (of old age) I find the need to add this qualifier sad. Normally, any rational adult (children even) would be able to correctly infer your intent from the context, but given how things are these days and the crazy laws being passed, I certainly don't blame you for feeling the need to be specific. See the particularly sad "Special note to law-enforcement agents" on https://sphincs.cr.yp.to/ https://sphincs.cr.yp.to/ . I can't help but feel that things are taking a turn for the worse.

coldtea 9y ago

>I hope that if we can just hold off on the crazy orwellian plans and ideas long enough for the old cluster of people in high places to die (of old age) The phenomenon has nothing much to do with "age". The old people running stuff today said the same thing for the "old timers" (Nixon etc) when they were young, and lots of them were themselves were 60s hippies, rebels, revolutionaries, etc when they were young. See how they turned out? It's not that new generations bring more liberal people, and not even that age changes you. It's power and interests that come into play. Which young persons don't have much, in the same way they don't have a seat in the senate. And when (a few) do, they can be as conservative/exploitive/etc as any 80 year old politician or CEO, etc.