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As a former MacRumors regular, I find it interesting to see that the even the Mac fans there are not in favor of Apple's decision, with a notable exception bein

As a former MacRumors regular, I find it interesting to see that the even the Mac fans there are not in favor of Apple's decision, with a notable exception being a user who mentioned that without the app store, the apps would be nothing. WeChat is huge in China. It's used for everything. It's bigger than Apple's or Google's app stores. I expect (and hope for) Apple to lose this battle.

addicted 9y ago
MacRumor regulars have turned quite sour on Apple. Don't get me wrong. It's still a pro Apple site with a pro Apple fan base, but it has a very strong contingent of Mac fans, many of who've been around since well before OSX, who feel, justifiably, completely neglected by Apple. Despite the fact that one could make a strong argument that these Mac fans are the reason Apple existed long enough to even make the iPod in the first place.
- jeff_petersen 9y ago
  > Despite the fact that one could make a strong argument that these Mac fans are the reason Apple existed long enough to even make the iPod in the first place. There's an interesting pop poli-sci book called The Dictator's Handbook (which despite the name draws examples from corporations and small-town governments in addition to actual dictatorships) which examines how people come to power. It generally works out to keeping the "essential" group happy. At one point the users you mention were "essentials" but they have been supplanted by other users. Apple no longer needs to pander to them, so they don't.
- valuearb 9y ago
  No one has time to post on MacRumors unless they are super pissed off. These posters are representative of little to nothing.
stevehawk 9y ago
I'm pretty sure the one guy that was on Apple's side misunderstood the issue. He seemed to think WeChat was taking the tips and not that it was a person to person transfer.
cefstat 9y ago
Two things. First, it is really troubling if Apple wants to impose a tax on transactions between app users. Tipping is used often in China (for example, in the form of "red envelopes" at Chinese New Year) and a 30% cut for Apple is simply incomprehensible and downright immoral. Second, the day that WeChat gets out of the App Store is the day that Apple becomes irrelevant in China. If the story is true, I am afraid somebody at Apple has not thought this thing through.
- valuearb 9y ago
  Apple doesn't charge for person to person transfers, or buying physical goods. They only charge if you are selling digital products (apps, features, content) through the App Store. Just those things that cost Apple to store and transfer.
  - Oletros 9y ago
    Apple doesn't store and transfer any in app store purchases, nor hey store or transfer any subscription
    - valuearb 9y ago
      Apple stores and transfers all of the apps that make purchases and subscriptions. Trillions upon trillions of bytes.
      - Oletros 9y ago
        You must be joking.
        valuearb 9y ago
        Do you really think WeChat pays Apple for the file transfers for hundreds of millions of copies of WeChat to customer iPhones every month (when you include updates). Essentially at least 100 Megabytes times 100 to 200 million a month.
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addicted 9y ago

MacRumor regulars have turned quite sour on Apple. Don't get me wrong. It's still a pro Apple site with a pro Apple fan base, but it has a very strong contingent of Mac fans, many of who've been around since well before OSX, who feel, justifiably, completely neglected by Apple. Despite the fact that one could make a strong argument that these Mac fans are the reason Apple existed long enough to even make the iPod in the first place.

jeff_petersen 9y ago
> Despite the fact that one could make a strong argument that these Mac fans are the reason Apple existed long enough to even make the iPod in the first place. There's an interesting pop poli-sci book called The Dictator's Handbook (which despite the name draws examples from corporations and small-town governments in addition to actual dictatorships) which examines how people come to power. It generally works out to keeping the "essential" group happy. At one point the users you mention were "essentials" but they have been supplanted by other users. Apple no longer needs to pander to them, so they don't.
valuearb 9y ago
No one has time to post on MacRumors unless they are super pissed off. These posters are representative of little to nothing.

stevehawk 9y ago

I'm pretty sure the one guy that was on Apple's side misunderstood the issue. He seemed to think WeChat was taking the tips and not that it was a person to person transfer.

cefstat 9y ago

Two things. First, it is really troubling if Apple wants to impose a tax on transactions between app users. Tipping is used often in China (for example, in the form of "red envelopes" at Chinese New Year) and a 30% cut for Apple is simply incomprehensible and downright immoral. Second, the day that WeChat gets out of the App Store is the day that Apple becomes irrelevant in China. If the story is true, I am afraid somebody at Apple has not thought this thing through.

valuearb 9y ago
Apple doesn't charge for person to person transfers, or buying physical goods. They only charge if you are selling digital products (apps, features, content) through the App Store. Just those things that cost Apple to store and transfer.
- Oletros 9y ago
  Apple doesn't store and transfer any in app store purchases, nor hey store or transfer any subscription
  - valuearb 9y ago
    Apple stores and transfers all of the apps that make purchases and subscriptions. Trillions upon trillions of bytes.
    - Oletros 9y ago
      You must be joking.
      - valuearb 9y ago
        Do you really think WeChat pays Apple for the file transfers for hundreds of millions of copies of WeChat to customer iPhones every month (when you include updates). Essentially at least 100 Megabytes times 100 to 200 million a month.

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