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>I'd have to register an aircraft if I wanted to fly it in most cases, and I'd have to register myself (get a pilot's license) There are entire classes of airc

>I'd have to register an aircraft if I wanted to fly it in most cases, and I'd have to register myself (get a pilot's license) There are entire classes of aircraft (ultra-lights most prominently) that require no license or registration to fly. The relevant law here comes from The FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, which prevented the FAA from imposing any new regulations on model aircrafts. The FAA classifies drones as model aircrafts, ergo they can't make you register them. The 2015 rule requiring registration was clear overreach by the FAA, made even more ridiculous because it was labeled an "emergency action"

romwell 9y ago
Thanks! The article did mention the Act of 2012, but what was missing was the classification of drones as model aircraft. The question is, what is a "drone"? A drone is synonymous with UAS, and unmanned aircraft system, to the FAA. Clearly, UAS the size of Predator are not "model aircraft". Are the drones above 0.5KG still classified as model aircraft? What's to stop FAA to re-classify any UAS as NOT model aircraft?
- matheweis 9y ago
  I am not a lawyer, but there is not a lot of wiggle room for the FAA to somehow define drones differently. The definitions are pretty clearly spelled out for all but the most obtuse interpretations - drones, when flown by hobbyists in visual line of sight, are a type of model aircraft. Now, the vlos clause can be a bit problematic for fpv fliers, but otherwise it's pretty ironclad. Here is the actual text from the law defining model aircraft: MODEL AIRCRAFT DEFINED.—In this section, the term ‘‘model aircraft’’ means an unmanned aircraft that is— (1) capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere; (2) flown within visual line of sight of the person operating the aircraft; and (3) flown for hobby or recreational purposes. ... and lest anyone think there is any wiggle room in defining an unmanned aircraft - from a few pages earlier: UNMANNED AIRCRAFT.—The term ‘‘unmanned aircraft’’ means an aircraft that is operated without the possibility of direct human intervention from within or on the aircraft.
pj_mukh 9y ago
Presumably, if people were flying model aircrafts/ultra-lights with the frequency with which drones are being flown, the Reform Act 2012 would be retooled? This is all a little confusing.

romwell 9y ago

Thanks! The article did mention the Act of 2012, but what was missing was the classification of drones as model aircraft. The question is, what is a "drone"? A drone is synonymous with UAS, and unmanned aircraft system, to the FAA. Clearly, UAS the size of Predator are not "model aircraft". Are the drones above 0.5KG still classified as model aircraft? What's to stop FAA to re-classify any UAS as NOT model aircraft?

matheweis 9y ago
I am not a lawyer, but there is not a lot of wiggle room for the FAA to somehow define drones differently. The definitions are pretty clearly spelled out for all but the most obtuse interpretations - drones, when flown by hobbyists in visual line of sight, are a type of model aircraft. Now, the vlos clause can be a bit problematic for fpv fliers, but otherwise it's pretty ironclad. Here is the actual text from the law defining model aircraft: MODEL AIRCRAFT DEFINED.—In this section, the term ‘‘model aircraft’’ means an unmanned aircraft that is— (1) capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere; (2) flown within visual line of sight of the person operating the aircraft; and (3) flown for hobby or recreational purposes. ... and lest anyone think there is any wiggle room in defining an unmanned aircraft - from a few pages earlier: UNMANNED AIRCRAFT.—The term ‘‘unmanned aircraft’’ means an aircraft that is operated without the possibility of direct human intervention from within or on the aircraft.

pj_mukh 9y ago

Presumably, if people were flying model aircrafts/ultra-lights with the frequency with which drones are being flown, the Reform Act 2012 would be retooled? This is all a little confusing.