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I'm the first person to admit that if I was to run a company, I wouldn't allow people to work remotely only. But as an employee, there's no way I'm going to dr
by wayn3 9y ago
I'm the first person to admit that if I was to run a company, I wouldn't allow people to work remotely only.
But as an employee, there's no way I'm going to drag my ass into an office ever again on a regular basis, when I can just as well work from exotic beachfront homes.
This is going to work out just like companies who cut compensation work out. You'll be left with the mediocre engineers and everyone who's able to choose to work remotely will eventually do so. If you don't permit that, you're left with the chaff.
Besides, isn't it kind of the managers job to help keep output in check? If my output was down I'd expect a friendly note telling me to quit slacking.
- pdimitar 9y ago> This is going to work out just like companies who cut compensation work out. You'll be left with the mediocre engineers and everyone who's able to choose to work remotely will eventually do so. If you don't permit that, you're left with the chaff. This has to be the best comment in this thread. I am observing this phenomena lately and I gotta say, I feel rather good about seeing the more backwards employers struggle already. They really have no idea it's the programmer's market.
- wayn3 9y agoI do mostly contract work. I have a line item called "distress surcharge" that is charged to clients who want to bother me with being in the office. Effectively doubles my rate. Helps them quit being silly.
- pdimitar 9y agoI wish I could say "I'll definitely try that!", but (prepare for a slight off-tangent) I suffered through enough stress and burnout cycles in my life -- several times! -- that I can't even justify a double rate for my newly delivered suffering in fresh new customer office. Or so I think. Funny things happen to human morals and sentiments when a lot of money is involved. Maybe I should try it once and see how it goes, actually. I am looking forward to start working with N customers on contract / consulting base but the transition is really hard. People keep treating me like a coding monkey whom they have to swindle for the lowest possible salary. Guess I have to change my LinkedIn profile dramatically, and make my own website as a start. Bottom-line / on-topic: if you're willing to share lessons learned from your transition then you should know that you'd have a passionate and intentive listener (me).
- taysic 9y ago> I'm the first person to admit that if I was to run a company, I wouldn't allow people to work remotely only. Why not? I work remotely and if I was to run a company I would hire remotely too. Given that I've coded myself I expect to know how long tasks should generally take. And I would want to give that benefit to my employees and attract talent as well.
- wayn3 9y agoThats not even a viable argument. You know how long things take. Assuming that thats true, what do you do about it? Something took significantly longer. What are you gonna do about it? Fire them?
- taysic 9y agoYes, if its a consistent problem with no good reason. Very viable.
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