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He had consensual sex with them. The sex only became nonconsensual retroactively when they learned about one another. Which is frankly, bullshit.
by Sunset 9y ago
He had consensual sex with them. The sex only became nonconsensual retroactively when they learned about one another. Which is frankly, bullshit.
- panglott 9y agoMy understanding is that he had consensual sex with them, they went to sleep, then he had nonconsensual sex with them while they were sleeping. They were individually disturbed by these events, but did not decide to file charges until they compared stories. That's very different from "the sex became nonconsensual retroactively". And I don't think it's uncommon for women brave the consequences of speaking out about sexual assault when they believe there's a pattern of behavior they can protect other women from.
- allover 9y ago> My understanding is that he had consensual sex with them, they went to sleep, then he had nonconsensual sex with them while they were sleeping. Source? Seems to differ from: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/17/julian-assange-sweden https://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/17/julian-assange...
- panglott 9y agoThanks. I must have been thinking of Miss W's story there. Miss A's account is even more serious: clear sexual assault.
- Kiro 9y agoYou're just speculating. But sure, in case the accusations are fabricated that's a much more plausible explanation than that there's a big conspiracy going on.
- jameswatson_iii 9y agoIn the west, whether a sex act is consentual or not depends on the whims of the prosecutor and the courts. It is the go-to method of imprisoning problematic males, because the burden of proof is so negligible. If the female at any point decides that she felt like she was raped, then the male will go to prison. Very convenient, as it allows a sword of Damocles to be held over the head of any man who dares have sexual relations in a western country. Of course, this is just the beginning [1], and the law is working tirelessly to incarcerate males for the impudent act of heterosexual intercourse. Of course, these matters are well outside the scope of discussion on HN, so I will leave it at that. We wouldn't want our young entrepreneurs asking the wrong sort of questions now would we? 1. http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.4121568/this-is-assault-says-u-s-lawmaker-working-to-criminalize-stealthing-1.4121577 http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-e...
- rmc 9y agoNo, one of the charges is that he started having sex with someone who was asleep.