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Agree completely, however companies tend to have better feedback loops to point to lack of ROI.

AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
Better or shorter? Must-solve, long shot things like GPS, Internet, Modern Weaponry require resolve behind it to make it happen. I am sure those programs had hundreds offshoots trying things out to solve problem, to see if it works, within the umbrella of that major effort e.g. GPS. ROI measured in terms of money results in drug companies chasing chronic pills than cures. That need not be the only measure.
- ThomPete 9y ago
  Shorter = better in my world. The government could have that too if they did budgets differently.
pixl97 9y ago
Ehh, maybe. Then again the Great Retail Apocalypse of 2017 may lead to to think otherwise. US retail is massively overbuild, most of that because the companies are allowed to take on tens or hundreds of millions of debt. This debt acts as a buffer "It's only bad now, it will be better soon, we promise". By the time feedback signals give a clear message that the investment will never be repaid investors are overextended and losses occur.
- ThomPete 9y ago
  That industrywide, the individual companies will soon find out if the overinvested or not.
  - pixl97 9y ago
    The old saying "The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" always applies. It really doesn't matter if you are a responsible company that takes on low/no debt if a significant number of your competitors take on debt, and their investors allow it. "Soon" is highly overrated. Amazon is going to make lots of money 'soon' unless they are wrong about future market conditions, yet their investors have given them a pass at reinvesting most of their money for growth. Entire industries can commit irrational actions for long periods of time and have plenty of analyst attempt to rationalize the situation.
    - ThomPete 9y ago
      Sure but the point is once the market dries up the companies will know. Thats not the same for governments who do their budgetting rather different.

Better or shorter? Must-solve, long shot things like GPS, Internet, Modern Weaponry require resolve behind it to make it happen. I am sure those programs had hundreds offshoots trying things out to solve problem, to see if it works, within the umbrella of that major effort e.g. GPS. ROI measured in terms of money results in drug companies chasing chronic pills than cures. That need not be the only measure.

ThomPete 9y ago
Shorter = better in my world. The government could have that too if they did budgets differently.

pixl97 9y ago

Ehh, maybe. Then again the Great Retail Apocalypse of 2017 may lead to to think otherwise. US retail is massively overbuild, most of that because the companies are allowed to take on tens or hundreds of millions of debt. This debt acts as a buffer "It's only bad now, it will be better soon, we promise". By the time feedback signals give a clear message that the investment will never be repaid investors are overextended and losses occur.

ThomPete 9y ago
That industrywide, the individual companies will soon find out if the overinvested or not.
- pixl97 9y ago
  The old saying "The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" always applies. It really doesn't matter if you are a responsible company that takes on low/no debt if a significant number of your competitors take on debt, and their investors allow it. "Soon" is highly overrated. Amazon is going to make lots of money 'soon' unless they are wrong about future market conditions, yet their investors have given them a pass at reinvesting most of their money for growth. Entire industries can commit irrational actions for long periods of time and have plenty of analyst attempt to rationalize the situation.
  - ThomPete 9y ago
    Sure but the point is once the market dries up the companies will know. Thats not the same for governments who do their budgetting rather different.