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Well here's a data point for you. Before they announced that they were shutting down, they started to sell discounted tickets via Groupon - my circle of friend

Well here's a data point for you. Before they announced that they were shutting down, they started to sell discounted tickets via Groupon - my circle of friends and I were happily sending each other links to the deal. But because some of the top Google results for Ringling Brothers were links to the websites (PETA?) with videos of elephants being struck or shocked with cattle prods, my wife and I decided against buying tickets. We're not PETA supporters or vocal on this topic, we just silently decided against visiting the circus. It's the same thing with Sea World, after watching Blackfish on Netflix we decided against visiting Sea World during our trip to Florida. We didn't write letters or post about it on Facebook, just silently declined to visit it.

autokad 9y ago
That's a whole industrial complex in of itself. Their thirst to shut things down is unquenchable, as they aren't to just going after circus, sea worlds, and farms, but they are also going after zoos and such. and of course they will never be satisfied, making 'documentaries' and collecting donations is big business. they wont ever say 'well there is no more good to do, lets close doors'. They will just take their agenda to the next victim.
- chronic940 9y ago
  Here's another data point. I've never been to one of their shows. I don't plan on it. I'll go if I have time. Elephants or no elephants does not contribute to my decision.
- monksy 9y ago
  > They will just take their agenda to the next victim. Welcome to the whole motivation behind progressivism. Yes, it can do some good, but it relies on people being victims to get support.
- mikeyouse 9y ago
  I'm not sure if you can call the people torturing animals on tape 'victims' but sure.
- Allower 9y ago
  so by spreading awareness and knowledge of the realities of these businesses they are doing something ethically questionable? what are you saying?
- yequalsx 9y ago
  It can both be an industrial complex and the morally correct thing to do.
- burkaman 9y ago
  Who is "they" in this comment?
- pweissbrod 9y ago
  To me, PETA is neither friend nor foe. I am a beekeeper. PETA says I exploit the bees and steal honey from the rightful owners. So we disagree. Nonetheless PETA does a public service by working to expose behind-the-scenes treatment of animals. You can derive your own moral conclusion of their findings. Most people find this treatment abusive. I agree with them.
- rayiner 9y ago
  Circuses, farms, and zoos are hardly "victims." Aside from a handful of zoos that do good (by protecting and breeding endangered animals), most just profit from the existence of other living creatures. Hard for me to shed a tear about them shutting their doors.
  - autokad 9y ago
    yes, go after those nefarious zoosters making copious profits.

autokad 9y ago

That's a whole industrial complex in of itself. Their thirst to shut things down is unquenchable, as they aren't to just going after circus, sea worlds, and farms, but they are also going after zoos and such. and of course they will never be satisfied, making 'documentaries' and collecting donations is big business. they wont ever say 'well there is no more good to do, lets close doors'. They will just take their agenda to the next victim.

chronic940 9y ago
Here's another data point. I've never been to one of their shows. I don't plan on it. I'll go if I have time. Elephants or no elephants does not contribute to my decision.
monksy 9y ago
> They will just take their agenda to the next victim. Welcome to the whole motivation behind progressivism. Yes, it can do some good, but it relies on people being victims to get support.
mikeyouse 9y ago
I'm not sure if you can call the people torturing animals on tape 'victims' but sure.
Allower 9y ago
so by spreading awareness and knowledge of the realities of these businesses they are doing something ethically questionable? what are you saying?
yequalsx 9y ago
It can both be an industrial complex and the morally correct thing to do.
burkaman 9y ago
Who is "they" in this comment?
pweissbrod 9y ago
To me, PETA is neither friend nor foe. I am a beekeeper. PETA says I exploit the bees and steal honey from the rightful owners. So we disagree. Nonetheless PETA does a public service by working to expose behind-the-scenes treatment of animals. You can derive your own moral conclusion of their findings. Most people find this treatment abusive. I agree with them.
rayiner 9y ago
Circuses, farms, and zoos are hardly "victims." Aside from a handful of zoos that do good (by protecting and breeding endangered animals), most just profit from the existence of other living creatures. Hard for me to shed a tear about them shutting their doors.
- autokad 9y ago
  yes, go after those nefarious zoosters making copious profits.