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Is it just me being in my dotage, or does anyone else feel that websites that override my "open in new tab" action to force their tab to the top of my view plus

Is it just me being in my dotage, or does anyone else feel that websites that override my "open in new tab" action to force their tab to the top of my view plus tout their app should be taken out behind the shed and shot?

andreareina 9y ago
I've said the same thing about applications that steal focus.
- cryptoz 9y ago
  It's remarkably hard to find or configure an OS to not steal focus. Everything I've tried for my whole life has failed, with the exception of not using a GUI and just staying on the linux command line without letting startx run. iOS? Steals focus all the time. Android? Steals focus all the time. Windows? Steals focus all the time. Mac OS X? Steals focus all the time. Ubuntu? Steals focus all the time. It's outrageous and annoying. Does anyone have a simple OS configuration that will prevent all focus-stealing system dialogs from actually interrupting focus? Edit: To continue the rant, Windows used to pop OS update dialogs that interrupted keyboard focus, took keystrokes like spacebar and enter to mean "lose all work and reboot". I remember a long time ago, typing and looking away from the screen, only to find that my computer had turned off. Infuriating.
  - spathi_fwiffo 9y ago
    Should be possible on Ubuntu. I have most of this set on my KDE setup, but harder to configure than back when i used FVWM. You can at least set sloppy focus. I haven't bothered to look if you can still open behind/lower on open.
  - user5994461 9y ago
    A windows application can't steal the focus unless it is the the top window already. This is behavior built deep into the system that cannot be overridden. It is very effective against numerous stupid apps.
    - TeMPOraL 9y ago
      > A windows application can't steal the focus unless it is the the top window already. Or unless it decides to throw up a modal dialog, AFAIR. Unless they changed that at some point. Also, Windows Update "rebooting in 5 minutes, do you want to reboot now instead?" popups in pre-Win8.
  - Too 9y ago
    When was the last time you used windows? ME? Nowadays the worst thing that can happen is that the task bar icon starts blinking or a non focus stealing balloon popup. (not balloons anymore but don't know the new term) *Win32 does expose functions to enumerate applications and to give arbitrary handles focus. So an app could theoretically use this to give itself focus but that is far from the default for requesting dialogs or attention and no serious application would do such a thing. Such sleazy applications shouldn't be installed in the first place. Unless that application is designed to be a window manager.
  - kevin_thibedeau 9y ago
    This is possible with any number of X11 window managers.
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    I'm with you on this. I'd love to have such a configuration too. RE your edit: I feel your pain, had that happen to me many times. Ubuntu does this too with "hey, there are updates ready to be installed!", but at least this doesn't cause a reboot.
- Pica_soO 9y ago
  I ve spend a good part of my lifetime making that program- it deserves to be the star of the desktop. And calling the wizard of OS to find out what happened after it took gratuitous time to load for the user-attention-whoring is simply cowardice.

andreareina 9y ago

I've said the same thing about applications that steal focus.

cryptoz 9y ago
It's remarkably hard to find or configure an OS to not steal focus. Everything I've tried for my whole life has failed, with the exception of not using a GUI and just staying on the linux command line without letting startx run. iOS? Steals focus all the time. Android? Steals focus all the time. Windows? Steals focus all the time. Mac OS X? Steals focus all the time. Ubuntu? Steals focus all the time. It's outrageous and annoying. Does anyone have a simple OS configuration that will prevent all focus-stealing system dialogs from actually interrupting focus? Edit: To continue the rant, Windows used to pop OS update dialogs that interrupted keyboard focus, took keystrokes like spacebar and enter to mean "lose all work and reboot". I remember a long time ago, typing and looking away from the screen, only to find that my computer had turned off. Infuriating.
- spathi_fwiffo 9y ago
  Should be possible on Ubuntu. I have most of this set on my KDE setup, but harder to configure than back when i used FVWM. You can at least set sloppy focus. I haven't bothered to look if you can still open behind/lower on open.
- user5994461 9y ago
  A windows application can't steal the focus unless it is the the top window already. This is behavior built deep into the system that cannot be overridden. It is very effective against numerous stupid apps.
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    > A windows application can't steal the focus unless it is the the top window already. Or unless it decides to throw up a modal dialog, AFAIR. Unless they changed that at some point. Also, Windows Update "rebooting in 5 minutes, do you want to reboot now instead?" popups in pre-Win8.
- Too 9y ago
  When was the last time you used windows? ME? Nowadays the worst thing that can happen is that the task bar icon starts blinking or a non focus stealing balloon popup. (not balloons anymore but don't know the new term) *Win32 does expose functions to enumerate applications and to give arbitrary handles focus. So an app could theoretically use this to give itself focus but that is far from the default for requesting dialogs or attention and no serious application would do such a thing. Such sleazy applications shouldn't be installed in the first place. Unless that application is designed to be a window manager.
- kevin_thibedeau 9y ago
  This is possible with any number of X11 window managers.
- TeMPOraL 9y ago
  I'm with you on this. I'd love to have such a configuration too. RE your edit: I feel your pain, had that happen to me many times. Ubuntu does this too with "hey, there are updates ready to be installed!", but at least this doesn't cause a reboot.
Pica_soO 9y ago
I ve spend a good part of my lifetime making that program- it deserves to be the star of the desktop. And calling the wizard of OS to find out what happened after it took gratuitous time to load for the user-attention-whoring is simply cowardice.