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>He still can't leave. The US is just going to kidnap him off the streets of London. Wouldn't be the first time. When was the last time the US kidnapped someon

>He still can't leave. The US is just going to kidnap him off the streets of London. Wouldn't be the first time. When was the last time the US kidnapped someone from London's streets?

scandox 9y ago
I think you're being a tad literal there. The last case I remember was Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr who was kidnapped in Italy and brought to Egypt by the CIA in 2005. Italy's streets are not less intrinsically sacred than England's.
- mootothemax 9y ago
  >I think you're being a tad literal there. The last case I remember was Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr who was kidnapped in Italy and brought to Egypt by the CIA in 2005. Italy's streets are not less intrinsically sacred than England's. I'm being literal on purpose. Look at the other replies to me; everyone talks about the CIA, yourself included, and ignores the fact that Italy was working hand-in-hand with the CIA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case That's very different, and it remains absolutely disgusting nonetheless.
  - scandox 9y ago
    Ok, so is it your contention that the UK would not co-operate in similar fashion? And, if so, why? Genuine sense of political autonomy or PR?
    - mootothemax 9y ago
      > Ok, so is it your contention that the UK would not co-operate in similar fashion? And, if so, why? Genuine sense of political autonomy or PR? My contention is that the US would not kidnap him from London's streets. Word choice is important; I'm sick to the back teeth of hyperbole backed up with "wouldn't be the first time."
      - ionised 9y ago
        Is it hyperbole when it has actually happened before? Surely a precedent means the suggestion is not hyperbolic?
      - scandox 9y ago
        I don't know why you're being downvoted. Seems reasonable to me even if I don't agree.
    - angus-prune 9y ago
      There was a massive scandal over UK complicity in US extraordinary rendition over here a few years ago. The UK government was roundly condemned and the practice stopped (including refueling US rendition flights from elsewhere). This will not happen to Assange.
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grey-area 9y ago
They've kidnapped people from the streets of Milan, Italy. http://www.businessinsider.com/cia-operative-extradited-to-italy-for-alleged-role-in-kidnapping-2016-4?IR=T http://www.businessinsider.com/cia-operative-extradited-to-i...
Cthulhu_ 9y ago
...that we know of. The CIA and co have means of making people disappear.
INTPenis 9y ago
Also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatriation_of_Ahmed_Agiza_and_Muhammad_al-Zery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatriation_of_Ahmed_Agiza_an...
SideburnsOfDoom 9y ago
> When was the last time the US kidnapped someone from London's streets? I don't think that they'd need to really. Much easier to have a quiet word with the co-operative British authorities who would assist with the matter and then hand over the individual in question. All soft language and avoidance of publicity, you see. But the same result.
belorn 9y ago
"UK police say WikiLeaks' Assange will be arrested if he leaves Ecuador's embassy" - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecuador-sweden-assange-britain-idUSKCN18F0XM http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecuador-sweden-assange-bri... So while we don't know yet about the US, the intention of the UK is clear.

>He still can't leave. The US is just going to kidnap him off the streets of London. Wouldn't be the first time. When was the last time the US kidnapped someone from London's streets?

scandox 9y ago

I think you're being a tad literal there. The last case I remember was Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr who was kidnapped in Italy and brought to Egypt by the CIA in 2005. Italy's streets are not less intrinsically sacred than England's.

mootothemax 9y ago
>I think you're being a tad literal there. The last case I remember was Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr who was kidnapped in Italy and brought to Egypt by the CIA in 2005. Italy's streets are not less intrinsically sacred than England's. I'm being literal on purpose. Look at the other replies to me; everyone talks about the CIA, yourself included, and ignores the fact that Italy was working hand-in-hand with the CIA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case That's very different, and it remains absolutely disgusting nonetheless.
- scandox 9y ago
  Ok, so is it your contention that the UK would not co-operate in similar fashion? And, if so, why? Genuine sense of political autonomy or PR?
  - mootothemax 9y ago
    > Ok, so is it your contention that the UK would not co-operate in similar fashion? And, if so, why? Genuine sense of political autonomy or PR? My contention is that the US would not kidnap him from London's streets. Word choice is important; I'm sick to the back teeth of hyperbole backed up with "wouldn't be the first time."
    - ionised 9y ago
      Is it hyperbole when it has actually happened before? Surely a precedent means the suggestion is not hyperbolic?
    - scandox 9y ago
      I don't know why you're being downvoted. Seems reasonable to me even if I don't agree.
  - angus-prune 9y ago
    There was a massive scandal over UK complicity in US extraordinary rendition over here a few years ago. The UK government was roundly condemned and the practice stopped (including refueling US rendition flights from elsewhere). This will not happen to Assange.
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grey-area 9y ago

They've kidnapped people from the streets of Milan, Italy. http://www.businessinsider.com/cia-operative-extradited-to-italy-for-alleged-role-in-kidnapping-2016-4?IR=T http://www.businessinsider.com/cia-operative-extradited-to-i...

Cthulhu_ 9y ago

...that we know of. The CIA and co have means of making people disappear.

INTPenis 9y ago

Also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatriation_of_Ahmed_Agiza_and_Muhammad_al-Zery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatriation_of_Ahmed_Agiza_an...

SideburnsOfDoom 9y ago

> When was the last time the US kidnapped someone from London's streets? I don't think that they'd need to really. Much easier to have a quiet word with the co-operative British authorities who would assist with the matter and then hand over the individual in question. All soft language and avoidance of publicity, you see. But the same result.

belorn 9y ago

"UK police say WikiLeaks' Assange will be arrested if he leaves Ecuador's embassy" - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecuador-sweden-assange-britain-idUSKCN18F0XM http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecuador-sweden-assange-bri... So while we don't know yet about the US, the intention of the UK is clear.