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How does a mesh network cross oceans?
by justifier 9y ago
How does a mesh network cross oceans?
- AstralStorm 9y agoVia long hops, just like the rest of the Internet. Either fibre, satellite or old radio relay.
- justifier 9y agohow do you decentralise fibre, satellite or radio relay?
- Qwertystop 9y agoYou end up with bottlenecks. Packets on a mesh will try for the best route - if there's only one big cable across the ocean, everything that needs to cross takes it. Same situation we've got now, for oceans.
- justifier 9y agobut how does that decentralise the system? a central body will need to maintain those lines and would be critical to the mesh
- ianai 9y agoI'm thinking at some point the mesh network abstracts over the current internet. An abstraction that has crossed an entire continent can probably afford a non-crap service line.
- dredmorbius 9y agoIn stationwagons.... More seriously, back in the old days: ... the Usenet link to Australia was a daily batch of tapes flown by 747. High bandwidth, but long ping times. One of the first publicly-accessible network links between the US and Europe ... was a 9600 BAUD line. I'd cite both of these in more detail, but the book is buried somewhere in archives presently. A late 1980s / early 1990s (just prior to the dawn of the public Internet) item. More generally, though, to address your question, oceans aren't the problem. We've got ocean links. It's the last mile, between you and the local on-ramp. That's where Comcast, Verizon, AT&T, and TWC have their monopolies, which need breaking up.
- ianai 9y agoI'm thinking solar powered (with batteries) WAP/repeater polls. That's definitely a capital outlay, still. But it might be more serviceable/financeable at a local level.
- dredmorbius 9y agoQuite honestly, cable (solid 19th century proven tech), or satellites (low-orbiting swarms) would be far less problematic. You might be able to cross the Baring Strait with a LOS microwave relay -- there's a somewhat fanciful video which explores the possibility of driving from Tierra del Fuego to London. It's only really hard in a few areas, one of the more problematic being Guatemal. Conceptually, tunnelling or bridging (my option would be the former) the Straight is within reason (51 km, compare the Gotthard Base tunnel at 35.5 km). It's creating all-season driveable roads (or trainable tracks) across Alaska and Siberia which are the more formidable challenges. But for the Atlantic? Cable. Seriously. And the Lima - Sydney tunnel is going to take a while to dig.
- ianai 9y agoI meant at the last mile. I could see a mesh network first taking off in a city/neighborhood.
- dredmorbius 9y agoOh yes, that makes far more sense, sorry.
- dredmorbius 9y agoSeeing if I can't find the citation at least. Not sure if it's turned up, though several contemporary accounts are interesting in retrospect. I'm wondering if Egypt has reconsidered its actions... http://www.worldcat.org/title/introducing-internet-to-egypt-experiences-and-challenges/oclc/5872477382&referer=brief_results http://www.worldcat.org/title/introducing-internet-to-egypt-... It might be John McConnell's Internetworking computer systems : interconnecting networks and systems (1988): http://www.worldcat.org/title/internetworking-computer-systems-interconnecting-networks-and-systems/oclc/17731706?referer=di&ht=edition http://www.worldcat.org/title/internetworking-computer-syste... Prentice Hall seems right for the publisher, though I'm not positive on the title. Date seems a year or three early. Possibly John Quartman's The Matrix, 1990, which sounds closer to the right date: https://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Computer-Networks-Conferencing-Worldwide/dp/1555580335/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 https://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Computer-Networks-Conferencing...