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"To me, the last 15 years have been car manufacturers figuring out that with the right kind of engineering, you can get rid of turbo lag, and if you don't have
by rsync 9y ago
"To me, the last 15 years have been car manufacturers figuring out that with the right kind of engineering, you can get rid of turbo lag, and if you don't have lag or reliability problems, turbos make everything better. Smaller, faster, more fuel-efficient. My dad's sedan has a twin turbo these days. It gets 35 mpg."
I think this is a mistaken interpretation of what is going on.
What I believe is happening is that ever-increasing emissions and fleet efficiency requirements have seriously clamped down on what carmakers can produce, with technology and feature creep continuing to add weight to the car.
That is why we see cars going to smaller and smaller engines (basically the entire Volvo fleet is 4 cylinder now) with increased reliance on turbo/super charging to achieve necessary horsepower.
But these things are not equal - smaller engines vibrate more, they are louder, they are most likely inline and therefore have badly balanced "secondary forces" and they are going to have trouble achieving displacement larger than 2.5L.
I have no skin in this game since I don't care at all about ICE or ICE car culture and I want to transition to fully electric vehicles ASAP.
But never forget, kids: there is no replacement for displacement.
- chadgeidel 9y agoTurbocharged cars (exhaust driven) are more efficient partially because they capture waste heat from the combustion process. A manufacturer can tune the engine and gearing to have a really good "sticker" EPA economy rating, but that generally doesn't translate to a good "actual" economy rating (because people are always gunning the engine to get that sweet boost). Unfortunately small turbo engines have higher emissions (forget the specific component, the other advancement of direct-injection has higher NOx emissions I believe) and manufacturers are now moving back to larger-displacement naturally aspirated engines because people don't drive like the EPA test works.
- justin66 9y ago> But never forget, kids: there is no replacement for displacement. Said no one who has ever compared this generation's Porsche Cayman/Boxster to the previous generation. trjordan's right, the engineering of the small-displacement turbocharged motors has become completely amazing. You could scale up (ooooh... put AWD in too, for some reason!) but the cars are already overpowered.