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Well, I am huge fan of Elon and the companies, but I guess that Michael Sanchez's situation of working with his hands above his head all day, resulting in two h

Well, I am huge fan of Elon and the companies, but I guess that Michael Sanchez's situation of working with his hands above his head all day, resulting in two herniated disks, is really sad. But how else can the work get done? I guess most people here are going to say that he's pushing his workers too hard, and that they're losing faith. I think it's just much more difficult than people appreciate to build a successful car company, and some people will have their lives spent building it. I think that even if 1 in 100 employees flat out died because of Tesla, the company and Elon should carry on without slowing down anything. It's just too important that we transition out of a carbon economy. Besides, I don't think conditions are really that bad. This is obviously a smear piece indicated by mentioning the Model X delays in TFA - What does that have to do with workplace injuries? Nothing, but they're trying to bring down Elon and his companies. Workplace injuries are bad, but Elon is a poppy that's 100 times taller than the rest. I think they're trying to cut him down more than anything. May the old-school unions be perpetually denied any access to his factories.

stijnstijn 9y ago
Tesla could design their factory so that people don't have to work with their hands above their head all day. There's a video further up in this thread showing how a production line in a Ford factory where they clearly took care to make the workers handle things right in front of them as much as possible. It just requires you to have the worker's comfort (or, actually, health) in mind when designing the production line. Or if that's not possible, assign shifts so people don't have to work in an unhealthy position for too long. Apparently that didn't happen at Tesla, which I personally think is a fair thing to blame them for.
tripzilch 9y ago
> I think that even if 1 in 100 employees flat out died because of Tesla, the company and Elon should carry on without slowing down anything. It's just too important that we transition out of a carbon economy. That is how we built cathedrals in medieval times. We like to think we're doing better now. We liked to think we had very good reasons back then as well. Now don't get me wrong, I believe we need to save ourselves from global warming and I believe this need is much more real than the belief that we need to save our immortal souls from the wrath of a Christian god if we don't sacrifice enough peasants stacking rocks in aesthetically pleasing ways. And I really would like to believe we're doing better now. > I guess most people here are going to say that he's pushing his workers too hard, and that they're losing faith. Except that "faith" has been the excuse to commit the worst atrocities in human history and it's terrible that you even try to bring it up to defend a good thing. Look at some other comments, some people saying that he's improved working conditions recently. THAT is the good thing. > I think that even if 1 in 100 employees flat out died because of Tesla You mean "died for our sins", right? Would you sacrifice any 1 in 100 employees of Tesla to save our selv--souls or just the lowly peasants on the factory floor? Will you roll the dice if rolling a one kicks Elon's bucket? He's too important? Will you roll for yourself for every factory worker you deem unimportant?

stijnstijn 9y ago

Tesla could design their factory so that people don't have to work with their hands above their head all day. There's a video further up in this thread showing how a production line in a Ford factory where they clearly took care to make the workers handle things right in front of them as much as possible. It just requires you to have the worker's comfort (or, actually, health) in mind when designing the production line. Or if that's not possible, assign shifts so people don't have to work in an unhealthy position for too long. Apparently that didn't happen at Tesla, which I personally think is a fair thing to blame them for.

tripzilch 9y ago

> I think that even if 1 in 100 employees flat out died because of Tesla, the company and Elon should carry on without slowing down anything. It's just too important that we transition out of a carbon economy. That is how we built cathedrals in medieval times. We like to think we're doing better now. We liked to think we had very good reasons back then as well. Now don't get me wrong, I believe we need to save ourselves from global warming and I believe this need is much more real than the belief that we need to save our immortal souls from the wrath of a Christian god if we don't sacrifice enough peasants stacking rocks in aesthetically pleasing ways. And I really would like to believe we're doing better now. > I guess most people here are going to say that he's pushing his workers too hard, and that they're losing faith. Except that "faith" has been the excuse to commit the worst atrocities in human history and it's terrible that you even try to bring it up to defend a good thing. Look at some other comments, some people saying that he's improved working conditions recently. THAT is the good thing. > I think that even if 1 in 100 employees flat out died because of Tesla You mean "died for our sins", right? Would you sacrifice any 1 in 100 employees of Tesla to save our selv--souls or just the lowly peasants on the factory floor? Will you roll the dice if rolling a one kicks Elon's bucket? He's too important? Will you roll for yourself for every factory worker you deem unimportant?