5 ms·

> How do we not die and have everyone lose their jobs? So he is effectively telling workers that if they do not work until they collapse, not only they will lo

> How do we not die and have everyone lose their jobs? So he is effectively telling workers that if they do not work until they collapse, not only they will lose their job but all the other workers will as well and that they are responsible for the destruction of Elon's company.

valuearb 9y ago
How is 42 hours a week working to collapse?
- eric_h 9y ago
  42 hours a week in a physically demanding job is very, very different from 42 hours in a chair. I did a temp job ages ago at a warehouse for 3 weeks, the first of which I was required to pack and move boxes, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week (2 15 minute breaks and 20 minutes for lunch, complete with a bell telling you when these things were happening). That first week was brutal. Fortunately at the end of the first week I demonstrated that I was an order of magnitude faster at operating the computer for that packing line than the guy who was running it (also a temp) and I got to stop doing the physical labor so the remaining time was less terrible.
  - Inconel 9y ago
    I don't want to discount the toll that physically demanding jobs can take on your body, but I think it's important to note that you can't really extrapolate much from the first week on the job. Just as you wouldn't after the first week of a new exercise routine. I've worked some pretty physically demanding jobs before, warehouse/fulfillment center, construction, farm labor, landscaping, and assuming you have proper protocols in place for safety, your body gets much stronger after a period of a few weeks. Edit: I've also worked customer service jobs were I sat in a chair for 8 hours a day and tbh I think that had a worse impact on my overall health than even the more grueling and unsafe construction jobs I've worked. Edit#2: Just to be clear, I'm not trying to excuse any unsafe working conditions at Tesla or elsewhere. I do however believe a job can be both physically demanding while also following proper health and safety guidelines to ensure employees aren't being hurt.
  - valuearb 9y ago
    We've all had physically demanding jobs. After a few weeks your body would have fully adjusted.
    - eric_h 9y ago
      And after a decade or two there would be irreversible damage, regardless of how "adjusted" your body was.
  - industriousthou 9y ago
    Yeah, I worked construction for a number of years and if you want to do physical work long term, you gotta invest in your health. Nothing crazy, but two to three hours a week in the gym can stave off major problems for a long time for most people. The real problem with that kind of work isn't the physical demands, but the monotony.

valuearb 9y ago

How is 42 hours a week working to collapse?

eric_h 9y ago
42 hours a week in a physically demanding job is very, very different from 42 hours in a chair. I did a temp job ages ago at a warehouse for 3 weeks, the first of which I was required to pack and move boxes, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week (2 15 minute breaks and 20 minutes for lunch, complete with a bell telling you when these things were happening). That first week was brutal. Fortunately at the end of the first week I demonstrated that I was an order of magnitude faster at operating the computer for that packing line than the guy who was running it (also a temp) and I got to stop doing the physical labor so the remaining time was less terrible.
- Inconel 9y ago
  I don't want to discount the toll that physically demanding jobs can take on your body, but I think it's important to note that you can't really extrapolate much from the first week on the job. Just as you wouldn't after the first week of a new exercise routine. I've worked some pretty physically demanding jobs before, warehouse/fulfillment center, construction, farm labor, landscaping, and assuming you have proper protocols in place for safety, your body gets much stronger after a period of a few weeks. Edit: I've also worked customer service jobs were I sat in a chair for 8 hours a day and tbh I think that had a worse impact on my overall health than even the more grueling and unsafe construction jobs I've worked. Edit#2: Just to be clear, I'm not trying to excuse any unsafe working conditions at Tesla or elsewhere. I do however believe a job can be both physically demanding while also following proper health and safety guidelines to ensure employees aren't being hurt.
- valuearb 9y ago
  We've all had physically demanding jobs. After a few weeks your body would have fully adjusted.
  - eric_h 9y ago
    And after a decade or two there would be irreversible damage, regardless of how "adjusted" your body was.
- industriousthou 9y ago
  Yeah, I worked construction for a number of years and if you want to do physical work long term, you gotta invest in your health. Nothing crazy, but two to three hours a week in the gym can stave off major problems for a long time for most people. The real problem with that kind of work isn't the physical demands, but the monotony.