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> iPhones can be lost too. emphasis on yet another. One more thing to keep track of. Not everyone likes to have their (door) keys hanging off their notebooks a
by pfg 9y ago
> iPhones can be lost too.
emphasis on yet another. One more thing to keep track of. Not everyone likes to have their (door) keys hanging off their notebooks all day.
> Yubikey can do U2F and OTP out of the package with no setup required.
Yes, but we're talking about git/ssh here.
> While it can be easier (I wrote a nice shell script for myself), I don't consider setting up a Yubikey for SSH hard for the type of person who uses SSH,
That's not my experience, but it suppose it might depend on who you know/work with, or in what area you work.
> So is the Yubikey software.
I was talking about the free beer kind of free, but it's not accurate to say YubiKey is all free (libre) either, it depends on the product. There was quite a controversy a while back[1]. Personally, I'm fine with closed-source security products. Ideological reasons aside, I don't think making decisions based on whether the code is open source makes sense.
> I would consider that a fatal flaw. Once the private key is on the device, it should not be easy to recover it from the device.
I wouldn't say it's a fatal flaw. You rely on your phone's security to manage access to signing operations anyway, so if an attacker has access to the app, you're pretty much screwed either way. Again, there are trade-offs, but it's a step-up from keeping keys on-device.
[1]: https://www.yubico.com/2016/05/secure-hardware-vs-open-source/ https://www.yubico.com/2016/05/secure-hardware-vs-open-sourc...
- danjoc 9y ago>Not everyone likes to have their (door) keys hanging off their notebooks all day. As if a whole phone is better... That's not a requirement with a yubikey anyway. Mine hangs on a lanyard on a dust plug. Many people have yubikey nanos and basically leave them plugged in their laptop all the time. >I was talking about the free beer kind of free, but it's not accurate to say YubiKey is all free (libre) Kryptonite is not libre. It's not even free. It's all rights reserved. https://github.com/kryptco/kryptonite-ios/blob/master/LICENSE https://github.com/kryptco/kryptonite-ios/blob/master/LICENS... Yubico piv tool is 2 clause BSD, which is GPL compatible. >Personally, I'm fine with closed-source security products. So is RMS, assuming device software is fixed. See his comments on microwave ovens. Yubikey fits this description. Firmware is not updatable, for better security. Anyone who is trying to make a controversy out of what yubico is doing is either more extreme than RMS, dumb, or a competitor.