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Agreed. I don't know why Amazon (and Azure) make this so hard. I've done something pretty similar to what Segment did (except it supports normalizing stats fro

Agreed. I don't know why Amazon (and Azure) make this so hard. I've done something pretty similar to what Segment did (except it supports normalizing stats from Azure and AWS), and 90% of the work is stuff you don't feel like you should have to be doing.

imron 9y ago
> I don't know why Amazon (and Azure) make this so hard. The company posting this recently managed to save $1,000,000 annually on their AWS bill. Having confusing billing makes it harder to spot that you're paying too much.
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- deno 9y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusopoly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusopoly
- j_s 9y ago
  Yes I think the motivation is clear. It is the same reason Dropbox doesn't include anything in the web interface to find large files. -- Edit: tossing in some options to accomplish this; not really related to the current discussion: Space usage analyser for Dropbox? | https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/47440/space-usage-analyser-for-dropbox/56724 https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/47440/space-usag... Unclouded - Cloud Manager | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.unclouded https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.u...
L_Rahman 9y ago
Product development incentive structures. Imagine you lead the product team at AWS. - The team is reviewing what to build for the next quarter. - You have a long list of revenue-generating features - At the end of the list there's one more item that'll help your customers spend LESS money on your product. - You can only build so many things and you know that you, your department, and Amazon the company will get pats on the back in $$$ form if you focus on the revenue generating features - Sure, it'd be really good to help longterm customers understand their costs better, but your biggest ones have the resources to build that infrastructure themselves anyways. And that is why this is so hard.
- claudenm 9y ago
  I think you're absolutely right, but what's hilarious to me is that they have private pricing for many of their services. For the traffic we're already doing, we just asked and they knocked our cloudfront bill down nearly 75%. We didn't have to change our usage at all. Granted, we serve a lot of traffic.
  - wahnfrieden 9y ago
    What order of magnitude of traffic are we talking?
    - doubleplusgood 9y ago
      A couple of PB per week, I'd guess

imron 9y ago

> I don't know why Amazon (and Azure) make this so hard. The company posting this recently managed to save $1,000,000 annually on their AWS bill. Having confusing billing makes it harder to spot that you're paying too much.

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deno 9y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusopoly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusopoly
j_s 9y ago
Yes I think the motivation is clear. It is the same reason Dropbox doesn't include anything in the web interface to find large files. -- Edit: tossing in some options to accomplish this; not really related to the current discussion: Space usage analyser for Dropbox? | https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/47440/space-usage-analyser-for-dropbox/56724 https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/47440/space-usag... Unclouded - Cloud Manager | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.unclouded https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.u...

L_Rahman 9y ago

Product development incentive structures. Imagine you lead the product team at AWS. - The team is reviewing what to build for the next quarter. - You have a long list of revenue-generating features - At the end of the list there's one more item that'll help your customers spend LESS money on your product. - You can only build so many things and you know that you, your department, and Amazon the company will get pats on the back in $$$ form if you focus on the revenue generating features - Sure, it'd be really good to help longterm customers understand their costs better, but your biggest ones have the resources to build that infrastructure themselves anyways. And that is why this is so hard.

claudenm 9y ago
I think you're absolutely right, but what's hilarious to me is that they have private pricing for many of their services. For the traffic we're already doing, we just asked and they knocked our cloudfront bill down nearly 75%. We didn't have to change our usage at all. Granted, we serve a lot of traffic.
- wahnfrieden 9y ago
  What order of magnitude of traffic are we talking?
  - doubleplusgood 9y ago
    A couple of PB per week, I'd guess