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You can find these with a minimum of research though, it's not like you _have_ to watch adds. I haven't had regular TV in over 10 years and I surf with ublock

by tyfon 9y ago

You can find these with a minimum of research though, it's not like you _have_ to watch adds. I haven't had regular TV in over 10 years and I surf with ublock origin yet I can still find the things I need to buy.

jstandard 9y ago
Someone does need to watch and click the ads though, otherwise many of those websites you're visiting (and apps you use) will have to shutdown.
- tyfon 9y ago
  That's fine by me. I visit * My local news paper's webpage (which i pay for). * HN which does not have ads * neogaf which do not have ads * youtube / twitch which I pay for (and block whatever else with ublock) * Email (through google apps which I pay for). On the rare occasion I visit something else I make damn sure to to have ublock / noscript active. When it comes to apps, I pay for them. If there are no pay/ad free version I don't use them, it's that simple.
  - dylz 9y ago
    Doesn't HN implicitly have ads in the form of job postings/etc from YC partners?
nindalf 9y ago
> You can find these with a minimum of research The problem is that many consumers might not even be aware that its a decision worth researching. For example, in some areas of the US it is cheaper and quicker to order online through Walmart than it is through Amazon. But most users order through Amazon by reflex, not even considering if there is an alternative. Advertising helps here. It tells them "look there is an alternative. Consider it!"
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- ThatGeoGuy 9y ago
  Isn't this kind of proving the point though? People go to Amazon for online shopping because Amazon pays to have a bigger web presence through advertising than WalMart does. Had there been no advertising on either end, you'd have a level playing field where people would have to discover the best / cheapest / most efficient online shopping on their own. Seems strange that you think advertising helps here when you also claim that people are responding to advertising with negative outcomes.

by tyfon 9y ago

jstandard 9y ago

Someone does need to watch and click the ads though, otherwise many of those websites you're visiting (and apps you use) will have to shutdown.

tyfon 9y ago
That's fine by me. I visit * My local news paper's webpage (which i pay for). * HN which does not have ads * neogaf which do not have ads * youtube / twitch which I pay for (and block whatever else with ublock) * Email (through google apps which I pay for). On the rare occasion I visit something else I make damn sure to to have ublock / noscript active. When it comes to apps, I pay for them. If there are no pay/ad free version I don't use them, it's that simple.
- dylz 9y ago
  Doesn't HN implicitly have ads in the form of job postings/etc from YC partners?

nindalf 9y ago

> You can find these with a minimum of research The problem is that many consumers might not even be aware that its a decision worth researching. For example, in some areas of the US it is cheaper and quicker to order online through Walmart than it is through Amazon. But most users order through Amazon by reflex, not even considering if there is an alternative. Advertising helps here. It tells them "look there is an alternative. Consider it!"

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ThatGeoGuy 9y ago
Isn't this kind of proving the point though? People go to Amazon for online shopping because Amazon pays to have a bigger web presence through advertising than WalMart does. Had there been no advertising on either end, you'd have a level playing field where people would have to discover the best / cheapest / most efficient online shopping on their own. Seems strange that you think advertising helps here when you also claim that people are responding to advertising with negative outcomes.