>market Socialism After all of this, we're back at market socialism? You could have just said that at the start if you meant it. >This is why I argue that it

>market Socialism After all of this, we're back at market socialism? You could have just said that at the start if you meant it. >This is why I argue that it is not a possibility to have the Socialist revolution in only one country, it is unsustainable; Communism must mature to a stateless society This is slavery. Are you mad? No choice, no flight over the border to freedom, no escape from compelled labor at the hands of your government... And all of this, for a system you admit is worse at providing a high standard of living than the status quo. What's the gain? >the usual functions of force of the state should be abolished soon after the proletariat have taken control of it And how does the proletariat take control anyway? Bloody revolution? Once the state dissolves the market, and then dissolves itself, the market will simply emerge again -- it has happened everywhere. Remember, you admit the co-op leads to worse outcomes than the market -- the market will re-gain control since it's better at the function of 'providing a standard of living for people,' and people want 'a standard of living'. You need a mechanism to maintain your desired social designs, if there is none, a market emerges, to prevent the market, you need totalitarianism.