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Kotlin support in Spring Framework 5.0

84 points by ssijak 9y ago

ssijak 9y ago
I reaaaaly like where Spring Framework is going. With Spring Boot it feels like a "light weight" framework in a scense that with minimal code you can get so much functionality and you do not need to use XML configs for anything. Spring Boot provides convention over configuration + if you include some dependencies on the path it will autoconfigure sane defaults. Also it provides good functionality (actuator, dev restarts...) They are also updating their APIs to Java 8 language features. And now with Spring 5 they are supporting Java 9 and introducing Reactive features to the framework (they were there before but now there is first class supprot) Now with the first class support for Kotlin, and all of the features it provides out of the box (for example you get many cloud features implemented and autoconfigured just by including dependencies), it really feels like a modern and powerhouse of a framework.
Traubenfuchs 9y ago
As a Spring developer, this finally forces me to learn Kotlin. Even Spring Boot is ready for it since Spring Boot 2.0 M1 got released a few days ago!
rb808 9y ago
Personally I think Spring creates more problems than it solves. Certainly many legacy projects I've seen have more complexity than if they were written cleanly. I was hoping I could move to a new language & platform and put it behind me but its following me! Has anyone tried and liked it?
- ssijak 9y ago
  I am liking it. Use just the latest versions and with Spring Boot, don`t write anything in XML (ignore all old tutorials) and you are good to go. It was clumsy in the past, and many tutorials are made using those deprecated old versions so be picky about from where you learn it. By the way, Spring help docs are so great and thorough.
- geodel 9y ago
  Going by the tech industry/politics favorite "This time we really got it right". May be this time Spring is really good.
- fgonzag 9y ago
  I like the leaner frameworks more (dropwizard, jooby and ilk), but spring security is hard to beat for authentication and authorization. I still default to spring for any public facing apps or sites.
joemccall86 9y ago
I'm a huge fan of Grails, but this definitely interests me. Spring Boot has come a long way. Groovy is still a great language (as far as being approchable from Java) but Kotlin looks like a lot of fun.
ianleeclark 9y ago
Switched jobs 6 months ago into using Kotlin + Spring boot and so far everything has been enjoyable and productive. While I'm not a fan of Kotlin doubling-down on null, I still enjoy using the language and came up to speed within a week. Hardest part has been deciphering the word salad that Spring uses.

84 points by ssijak 9y ago

I reaaaaly like where Spring Framework is going. With Spring Boot it feels like a "light weight" framework in a scense that with minimal code you can get so much functionality and you do not need to use XML configs for anything. Spring Boot provides convention over configuration + if you include some dependencies on the path it will autoconfigure sane defaults. Also it provides good functionality (actuator, dev restarts...) They are also updating their APIs to Java 8 language features. And now with Spring 5 they are supporting Java 9 and introducing Reactive features to the framework (they were there before but now there is first class supprot) Now with the first class support for Kotlin, and all of the features it provides out of the box (for example you get many cloud features implemented and autoconfigured just by including dependencies), it really feels like a modern and powerhouse of a framework.

Traubenfuchs 9y ago

As a Spring developer, this finally forces me to learn Kotlin. Even Spring Boot is ready for it since Spring Boot 2.0 M1 got released a few days ago!

rb808 9y ago

Personally I think Spring creates more problems than it solves. Certainly many legacy projects I've seen have more complexity than if they were written cleanly. I was hoping I could move to a new language & platform and put it behind me but its following me! Has anyone tried and liked it?

ssijak 9y ago
I am liking it. Use just the latest versions and with Spring Boot, don`t write anything in XML (ignore all old tutorials) and you are good to go. It was clumsy in the past, and many tutorials are made using those deprecated old versions so be picky about from where you learn it. By the way, Spring help docs are so great and thorough.
geodel 9y ago
Going by the tech industry/politics favorite "This time we really got it right". May be this time Spring is really good.
fgonzag 9y ago
I like the leaner frameworks more (dropwizard, jooby and ilk), but spring security is hard to beat for authentication and authorization. I still default to spring for any public facing apps or sites.

joemccall86 9y ago

I'm a huge fan of Grails, but this definitely interests me. Spring Boot has come a long way. Groovy is still a great language (as far as being approchable from Java) but Kotlin looks like a lot of fun.

ianleeclark 9y ago

Switched jobs 6 months ago into using Kotlin + Spring boot and so far everything has been enjoyable and productive. While I'm not a fan of Kotlin doubling-down on null, I still enjoy using the language and came up to speed within a week. Hardest part has been deciphering the word salad that Spring uses.