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"We're currently testing Federated Learning in Gboard on Android, the Google Keyboard" Thank-you for reminding me why I don't use Gboard and instead the BlackB

"We're currently testing Federated Learning in Gboard on Android, the Google Keyboard" Thank-you for reminding me why I don't use Gboard and instead the BlackBerry Priv's fine keyboard instead. The obsession of prediction in our culture is absurd.

m52go 9y ago
How is the Priv? Is it correct to think of it as a hardened version of Android? Been looking for something more secure than vanilla Android.
- vturner 9y ago
  The device has been pleasing. Good camera, nice slide out keyboard, nice display, very very fast charging capability (this was a surprise), snappy performance even with lots of apps running. I run it on Net10 and it appears to switch networks with ease (I have coverage everywhere, even rural Ohio). Concerning security, I think its basically an encrypted Android. The custom permissions feature is nice too but I think that's on generic Android too. It would be nice if there was an option to have no Google Play apps, but I have all permissions off on them anyways (except Gmail and Drive.)
tootie 9y ago
I knew you were going to say that.
Klathmon 9y ago
Why is prediction absurd? Doing something myself is one thing, having it done for me is convenient, having it done for me before I asked is even better (I do not mean in all situations, only in some, and only for some things, etc...)
- vturner 9y ago
  Its absurd in what you sacrifice (the data you're typing into your device) for the pay-out: a few milliseconds saved.
  - tshadley 9y ago
    Federated learning leaves the data on the device, only communicating updates to abstract models. See https://research.googleblog.com/2017/04/federated-learning-collaborative.html https://research.googleblog.com/2017/04/federated-learning-c...
shostack 9y ago
And yet auto-suggest on Gboard still doesn't work when you use the Google Search widget, and it also has different backspace behavior than normal typing.

m52go 9y ago

How is the Priv? Is it correct to think of it as a hardened version of Android? Been looking for something more secure than vanilla Android.

vturner 9y ago
The device has been pleasing. Good camera, nice slide out keyboard, nice display, very very fast charging capability (this was a surprise), snappy performance even with lots of apps running. I run it on Net10 and it appears to switch networks with ease (I have coverage everywhere, even rural Ohio). Concerning security, I think its basically an encrypted Android. The custom permissions feature is nice too but I think that's on generic Android too. It would be nice if there was an option to have no Google Play apps, but I have all permissions off on them anyways (except Gmail and Drive.)

tootie 9y ago

I knew you were going to say that.

Klathmon 9y ago

Why is prediction absurd? Doing something myself is one thing, having it done for me is convenient, having it done for me before I asked is even better (I do not mean in all situations, only in some, and only for some things, etc...)

vturner 9y ago
Its absurd in what you sacrifice (the data you're typing into your device) for the pay-out: a few milliseconds saved.
- tshadley 9y ago
  Federated learning leaves the data on the device, only communicating updates to abstract models. See https://research.googleblog.com/2017/04/federated-learning-collaborative.html https://research.googleblog.com/2017/04/federated-learning-c...

shostack 9y ago

And yet auto-suggest on Gboard still doesn't work when you use the Google Search widget, and it also has different backspace behavior than normal typing.