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| If you were to ask the average PC gamer, they’d swear up and down that there’s no way they’d ever give their money to such a corporation. Stopped reading her

| If you were to ask the average PC gamer, they’d swear up and down that there’s no way they’d ever give their money to such a corporation. Stopped reading here, what retarded nonsense.

penagwin 9y ago
Quite the opposite, most people joke (but seriously) that we lose our wallets during steam sales. We just willingly give them all of your money.
- havetocharge 9y ago
  Isn't that exactly how commerce has worked throughout the times? You're not being robbed, you're the one who is purchasing the games. If you lose your wallet during this activity, maybe you should not engage in it at all?
PhasmaFelis 9y ago
Yeah, I don't see how anyone who's followed gaming news for more than 5 minutes can think that "the average PC gamer" is defined by concern for labor abuses.
- WorldMaker 9y ago
  Yes, but there is still a very surprisingly vocal set of PC gamers that always seem to refer to Valve as if Steam were the local Mom & Pop shop down the street and not the Wal-Mart of videogames that it has become. (It's fine that Steam is the Wal-Mart of PC Gaming, but let's treat it that way.)
J5892 9y ago
He's implying that an average PC gamer would never use Uber, Lyft, or Airbnb. The whole article seems like the author just woke up from a 15-year coma and is having trouble coming to terms with modern commerce.
- andrepd 9y ago
  "That's just the way it is now" isn't a refutation.
- Nadya 9y ago
  >The whole article seems like the author just woke up from a 15-year coma and is having trouble coming to terms with modern commerce. Seems more like a Games Journalism article written by someone who isn't "a gamer". Which is par for the course nowadays. I'd be hard pressed to find any PC gamer who doesn't think Steam improved upon the way things used to be done. I do know one person who is an exception but their issue isn't the gaming side of things but the fact they liked to collect boxes for the box art. Fewer games being released as a box = fewer box arts for their collection.
  - WorldMaker 9y ago
    We could play the "no true Scotsman" game for a while, but I've yet to meet a games journalist that is less of "a gamer" than I am. The article admits Steam improved the way things had been done before. It simply asks us to question our relationship with Steam today, if it's continuing to do real good. It wonders why so many people are still adamant Steam is a Mom & Pop shop when it's the PC gaming Wal-Mart today.
    - Nadya 9y ago
      >We could play the "no true Scotsman" game for a while, but I've yet to meet a games journalist that is less of "a gamer" than I am. I predicted this would be a response (or, similarly, "gatekeeping"). "Gamers" in the literal sense? Sure. But most people mean "gamer" as in "gaming enthusiast". There's a certain level of skill or knowledge expected of anyone calling themselves an "enthusiast". If you lack both of those things you'll find it hard for anyone to take you seriously. Just like an "artist" who is both untalented and ignorant (eg. no knowledge of common terminology, history, or popular figures) wouldn't be taken seriously as an "artist", regardless of how much time they spend on it. Polygon infamously released 30 minutes of gameplay footage of Doom that was mocked for the player being so bad it's like they've no experience with an FPS game [0]. Polygon in general has a long track record of being ignorant of entire facets of gaming culture, to an extent that many enthusiasts say "Bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about." Their reputation for being ignorant and clickbaity wasn't earned because they're good at what they do, quite the contrary. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pQ0oO_cDE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pQ0oO_cDE

| If you were to ask the average PC gamer, they’d swear up and down that there’s no way they’d ever give their money to such a corporation. Stopped reading here, what retarded nonsense.

penagwin 9y ago

Quite the opposite, most people joke (but seriously) that we lose our wallets during steam sales. We just willingly give them all of your money.

havetocharge 9y ago
Isn't that exactly how commerce has worked throughout the times? You're not being robbed, you're the one who is purchasing the games. If you lose your wallet during this activity, maybe you should not engage in it at all?

PhasmaFelis 9y ago

Yeah, I don't see how anyone who's followed gaming news for more than 5 minutes can think that "the average PC gamer" is defined by concern for labor abuses.

WorldMaker 9y ago
Yes, but there is still a very surprisingly vocal set of PC gamers that always seem to refer to Valve as if Steam were the local Mom & Pop shop down the street and not the Wal-Mart of videogames that it has become. (It's fine that Steam is the Wal-Mart of PC Gaming, but let's treat it that way.)

J5892 9y ago

He's implying that an average PC gamer would never use Uber, Lyft, or Airbnb. The whole article seems like the author just woke up from a 15-year coma and is having trouble coming to terms with modern commerce.

andrepd 9y ago
"That's just the way it is now" isn't a refutation.
Nadya 9y ago
>The whole article seems like the author just woke up from a 15-year coma and is having trouble coming to terms with modern commerce. Seems more like a Games Journalism article written by someone who isn't "a gamer". Which is par for the course nowadays. I'd be hard pressed to find any PC gamer who doesn't think Steam improved upon the way things used to be done. I do know one person who is an exception but their issue isn't the gaming side of things but the fact they liked to collect boxes for the box art. Fewer games being released as a box = fewer box arts for their collection.
- WorldMaker 9y ago
  We could play the "no true Scotsman" game for a while, but I've yet to meet a games journalist that is less of "a gamer" than I am. The article admits Steam improved the way things had been done before. It simply asks us to question our relationship with Steam today, if it's continuing to do real good. It wonders why so many people are still adamant Steam is a Mom & Pop shop when it's the PC gaming Wal-Mart today.
  - Nadya 9y ago
    >We could play the "no true Scotsman" game for a while, but I've yet to meet a games journalist that is less of "a gamer" than I am. I predicted this would be a response (or, similarly, "gatekeeping"). "Gamers" in the literal sense? Sure. But most people mean "gamer" as in "gaming enthusiast". There's a certain level of skill or knowledge expected of anyone calling themselves an "enthusiast". If you lack both of those things you'll find it hard for anyone to take you seriously. Just like an "artist" who is both untalented and ignorant (eg. no knowledge of common terminology, history, or popular figures) wouldn't be taken seriously as an "artist", regardless of how much time they spend on it. Polygon infamously released 30 minutes of gameplay footage of Doom that was mocked for the player being so bad it's like they've no experience with an FPS game [0]. Polygon in general has a long track record of being ignorant of entire facets of gaming culture, to an extent that many enthusiasts say "Bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about." Their reputation for being ignorant and clickbaity wasn't earned because they're good at what they do, quite the contrary. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pQ0oO_cDE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pQ0oO_cDE