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As long as the work truck daily cycle can be done in 1 charge then there isn't a problem at all. Top it off every night. For long trips, ie 18 wheelers, yeah i

As long as the work truck daily cycle can be done in 1 charge then there isn't a problem at all. Top it off every night. For long trips, ie 18 wheelers, yeah it is kind of a no go without quick-swap batteries. Which isn't that huge of an obstacle imho. But, all that said, no of course fossil fuel cars aren't going away in 8 years

mikeash 9y ago
This is something I think a lot of people fail to understand. For daily use, EV charging is a convenience, not an inconvenience. It only takes me five seconds to plug in my car in the evening. It may take several hours to charge, but that happens while I'm eating dinner or sleeping or whatever. When you drive more than the car's range in a single day, then it flips, of course. For me, and I think for most people, this is rare enough that it's still a net win. It also flips if you can't plug in at home. For a lot of people that's easy, but for many it's tough. Thankfully installing a charger is pretty easy, so it comes down to convincing the powers that be to do it, or at least allow it, which gets easier all the time. Agree with the conclusion. Eight years?! The average car on American roads today is 11.5 years old. Average. Cars just don't get cycled out that quickly.
- AnimalMuppet 9y ago
  > It also flips if you can't plug in at home. For a lot of people that's easy, but for many it's tough. You mean like if you live in an apartment, and you get one covered parking space (if you're lucky)? And if you're married (or have a roommate), and you both have cars, well, your apartment complex might put in chargers for the covered parking, but they probably aren't putting chargers on the uncovered parking, so only one of you can charge per night.
  - mikeash 9y ago
    Why the emphasis on covered spaces? The difficulty and expense is the same whether it's covered or not.
    - AnimalMuppet 9y ago
      My perception is that the apartments consider the non-covered parking to be for visitors. It therefore seems to me less likely that they will install chargers for those spaces. (There is also perhaps the issue of the electrical chargers being out in the rain, but that wasn't part of my reasoning.) Disclaimer: I don't own any apartments, and I'm only guessing about how apartment owners think.

mikeash 9y ago

This is something I think a lot of people fail to understand. For daily use, EV charging is a convenience, not an inconvenience. It only takes me five seconds to plug in my car in the evening. It may take several hours to charge, but that happens while I'm eating dinner or sleeping or whatever. When you drive more than the car's range in a single day, then it flips, of course. For me, and I think for most people, this is rare enough that it's still a net win. It also flips if you can't plug in at home. For a lot of people that's easy, but for many it's tough. Thankfully installing a charger is pretty easy, so it comes down to convincing the powers that be to do it, or at least allow it, which gets easier all the time. Agree with the conclusion. Eight years?! The average car on American roads today is 11.5 years old. Average. Cars just don't get cycled out that quickly.

AnimalMuppet 9y ago
> It also flips if you can't plug in at home. For a lot of people that's easy, but for many it's tough. You mean like if you live in an apartment, and you get one covered parking space (if you're lucky)? And if you're married (or have a roommate), and you both have cars, well, your apartment complex might put in chargers for the covered parking, but they probably aren't putting chargers on the uncovered parking, so only one of you can charge per night.
- mikeash 9y ago
  Why the emphasis on covered spaces? The difficulty and expense is the same whether it's covered or not.
  - AnimalMuppet 9y ago
    My perception is that the apartments consider the non-covered parking to be for visitors. It therefore seems to me less likely that they will install chargers for those spaces. (There is also perhaps the issue of the electrical chargers being out in the rain, but that wasn't part of my reasoning.) Disclaimer: I don't own any apartments, and I'm only guessing about how apartment owners think.