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> everyone rave about FastMail in the other thread There's a lack of critical commentary about FastMail in general. In my case, it's because I don't want to c

> everyone rave about FastMail in the other thread There's a lack of critical commentary about FastMail in general. In my case, it's because I don't want to come off as being overly negative/contrarian, and I'm pretty terrible about leaving reviews for products and services, despite the fact that I rely heavily on reviews and making purchasing decisions. I was a subscriber to FastMail for years and recently (last month) switched away. One of the main selling points you hear about FastMail is that, unlike the stories you hear about people getting locked out of Gmail and other Google services with no support line, then ostensibly support is part of the package you get from FastMail since you're actually a paying customer. Over ~4 years with FastMail, I filed two tickets, and I walked away both times feeling gross after nasty encounters with FastMail employees. (Honestly, quietly closing the tickets would have been better than the responses they left.) So I made a decision to walk away permanently by not renewing. FastMail comes off as really well regarded in HN-like communities, but I can only help feeling like it's from those who set up an account years ago, had no problem sending and receiving mail, and have only ever coasted like that since, without ever interacting with the support that everyone feels warm and fuzzy about paying for but never using. The other thing is that there's a dearth of competition for FastMail, especially in the age of webmail, so they don't have to be good, all they have to do is exist. I'm on Runbox now, which has a less sexy interface if you're using webmail rather than IMAP, but it turns out to be slightly cheaper for my use case, and I can attest that, based on my experience during migration from FastMail, at least the Runbox staff don't come off as jerks.

delhanty 9y ago
>at least the Runbox staff don't come off as jerks. Yeah, that's my main actual service negative. The FM support staff are condescending, because they're the experts in email and you're just an ignorant customer.
- lilyball 9y ago
  Have you considered that maybe it's your attitude that's the problem, not FastMail? I've contacted FastMail support a number of times for various issues and not once have they ever been condescending.
  - vsl 9y ago
    My experience as well. They have the initial assumption that you're inexperienced (as is common in level 1 support and as I'm pretty sure they do for a good reason), but they are great at escalating, you don't have to ask them. And when an issue is escalated to engineers, you often get to talk to the founders and they are always happy to investigate in depth or explain, in detail, why things are they way they are or how they plan to address it. I actually appreciate that they always give honest, straight, no BS answers and while FM is certainly not perfect, the support I got through the years is a large part of why I recently moved off my grandfathered plan to multiple (business/personal separation) more expensive plans.
Casseres 9y ago
I'm a new customer as of a few months ago. I created a support ticket when I ran into a glitch of some sort (manually entered a dozen contacts, they showed up in the address book, but when I refreshed the webpage, the contacts disappeared). There wasn't much the support people could do, and I could see why someone might think I was just someone who didn't know what they were doing, but they didn't come off as unprofessional or anything to me. That sucks you had that experience, but it does not seem to be the norm.
ivm 9y ago
I'm using it for over 3 years and filed multiple tickets – the support always was very welcoming and fast.
mcgrath_sh 9y ago
I am a relatively happy FastMail customer, but I have two main complaints: - Their spam filtering is atrocious. - In the next 5 years I expect my family to expand and part of what drove me to FastMail was their family plan. That no longer exists. I have never heard of Runbox before your post and after a quick glance at their website, I am intrigued. What other services did you consider?

delhanty 9y ago

>at least the Runbox staff don't come off as jerks. Yeah, that's my main actual service negative. The FM support staff are condescending, because they're the experts in email and you're just an ignorant customer.

lilyball 9y ago
Have you considered that maybe it's your attitude that's the problem, not FastMail? I've contacted FastMail support a number of times for various issues and not once have they ever been condescending.
- vsl 9y ago
  My experience as well. They have the initial assumption that you're inexperienced (as is common in level 1 support and as I'm pretty sure they do for a good reason), but they are great at escalating, you don't have to ask them. And when an issue is escalated to engineers, you often get to talk to the founders and they are always happy to investigate in depth or explain, in detail, why things are they way they are or how they plan to address it. I actually appreciate that they always give honest, straight, no BS answers and while FM is certainly not perfect, the support I got through the years is a large part of why I recently moved off my grandfathered plan to multiple (business/personal separation) more expensive plans.

Casseres 9y ago

I'm a new customer as of a few months ago. I created a support ticket when I ran into a glitch of some sort (manually entered a dozen contacts, they showed up in the address book, but when I refreshed the webpage, the contacts disappeared). There wasn't much the support people could do, and I could see why someone might think I was just someone who didn't know what they were doing, but they didn't come off as unprofessional or anything to me. That sucks you had that experience, but it does not seem to be the norm.

ivm 9y ago

I'm using it for over 3 years and filed multiple tickets – the support always was very welcoming and fast.

mcgrath_sh 9y ago

I am a relatively happy FastMail customer, but I have two main complaints: - Their spam filtering is atrocious. - In the next 5 years I expect my family to expand and part of what drove me to FastMail was their family plan. That no longer exists. I have never heard of Runbox before your post and after a quick glance at their website, I am intrigued. What other services did you consider?