> dysfunctional but happy That is an oxymoron. When someone is "happy" to live in the rain and snow on concrete without a roof, because some abuser told them i

> dysfunctional but happy That is an oxymoron. When someone is "happy" to live in the rain and snow on concrete without a roof, because some abuser told them if they move from there, the world will eat them and torture them in hell forever, they're not actually happy, they're trapped in a shit situation by the lie that any attempt to free themselves from it would make it worse. The fact that what they feel is happiness makes this worse rather than better. We can forgive the abused for not knowing better, but we can't stand by idly and pretend that's their free choice without becoming guilty. > Are our own standards for freedom worth enforcing on other people's life? Yes. If you disagree, and expect that to be any more than wind to my ears, you're just trying to force your standards for freedom on others, so your own argument defeats itself before it even hits the ground. > A lot of families and people are dysfunctional. But are we functional enough to tell them what to do? Same thing: Are you functional enough to tell me I'm not?