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Even though it's not proved, Seth Rich comes to mind. (edit removed the yet in "proved yet")

by jfabre 9y ago

myaccountzz 9y ago
I mean it's pretty obvious that it was a political murder at this point. Of course liberal HN will down-vote you even if there was video evidence.
- ceejayoz 9y ago
  Uh huh. http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/16/media/seth-rich-family-response-claims-of-wikileaks-contact/ http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/16/media/seth-rich-family-respo...
  - jfabre 9y ago
    All right, is wikileaks also doing that for political reasons? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/10/wikileaks-offers-20000-reward-over-murder-of-democrat-staffer-se/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/10/wikileaks-offers-.... And we're supposed to trust that the family actually knows what really happened?
    - ceejayoz 9y ago
      > All right, is wikileaks also doing that for political reasons? Quite possibly. After all, they're against leaks when they're aimed at Trump: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/817322050297745408 https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/817322050297745408 > And we're supposed to trust that the family actually knows what really happened? The supposed bombshell yesterday fell apart, as conspiracy theories tend to do.
      - jfabre 9y ago
        Thanks for taking the time to reply to me and not just down-voting. I'm actually learning what your point of view on the story is.
      - _jal 9y ago
        Oh my god, that tweet. Assange has no more self-awareness than he did in the 90s, when we were on a mailing list together. Or than a turnip, for that matter.
  - LyndsySimon 9y ago
    It's worth noting that Brad Bauman, who is acting as spokesperson for the Rich family, is a PR expert with a long history with the DNC and supporting Progressive causes. If he's being paid by someone closely affiliated with the Democratic Party - and I don't know that he is, I'm building an air castle here - then distancing the Rich family from WikiLeaks would be in his best interest. This seems likely to me, as per the CNN article you linked: > Wheeler was put in touch with the Rich family through Dallas businessman Ed Butowsky, who told CNN he had offered to pay any bills associated with the investigation. > "You have a family who can't afford a PI. Their son was killed. So I offered to help out," Butowsky said. If they truly couldn't afford a PI, then I doubt they could afford a top-tier PR professional to speak on their behalf.
    - hackunomatter 9y ago
      You can keep finding tenuous connections, but in the end, there's no proof. It's all speculation, with assumptions, biased interpretations, etc. When you don't want to accept the obvious, it's easy to just keep scratching away until you think you find something (look up pareidolia).
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- keehun 9y ago
  It's really NOT obvious. Check the trail of Fox News' "evidence" falling apart at the seams: http://digg.com/2017/who-is-seth-rich-dnc-murder-wikileaks http://digg.com/2017/who-is-seth-rich-dnc-murder-wikileaks

Even though it's not proved, Seth Rich comes to mind. (edit removed the yet in "proved yet")

by jfabre 9y ago

Even though it's not proved, Seth Rich comes to mind. (edit removed the yet in "proved yet")

I mean it's pretty obvious that it was a political murder at this point. Of course liberal HN will down-vote you even if there was video evidence.

ceejayoz 9y ago
Uh huh. http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/16/media/seth-rich-family-response-claims-of-wikileaks-contact/ http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/16/media/seth-rich-family-respo...
- jfabre 9y ago
  All right, is wikileaks also doing that for political reasons? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/10/wikileaks-offers-20000-reward-over-murder-of-democrat-staffer-se/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/10/wikileaks-offers-.... And we're supposed to trust that the family actually knows what really happened?
  - ceejayoz 9y ago
    > All right, is wikileaks also doing that for political reasons? Quite possibly. After all, they're against leaks when they're aimed at Trump: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/817322050297745408 https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/817322050297745408 > And we're supposed to trust that the family actually knows what really happened? The supposed bombshell yesterday fell apart, as conspiracy theories tend to do.
    - jfabre 9y ago
      Thanks for taking the time to reply to me and not just down-voting. I'm actually learning what your point of view on the story is.
    - _jal 9y ago
      Oh my god, that tweet. Assange has no more self-awareness than he did in the 90s, when we were on a mailing list together. Or than a turnip, for that matter.
- LyndsySimon 9y ago
  It's worth noting that Brad Bauman, who is acting as spokesperson for the Rich family, is a PR expert with a long history with the DNC and supporting Progressive causes. If he's being paid by someone closely affiliated with the Democratic Party - and I don't know that he is, I'm building an air castle here - then distancing the Rich family from WikiLeaks would be in his best interest. This seems likely to me, as per the CNN article you linked: > Wheeler was put in touch with the Rich family through Dallas businessman Ed Butowsky, who told CNN he had offered to pay any bills associated with the investigation. > "You have a family who can't afford a PI. Their son was killed. So I offered to help out," Butowsky said. If they truly couldn't afford a PI, then I doubt they could afford a top-tier PR professional to speak on their behalf.
  - hackunomatter 9y ago
    You can keep finding tenuous connections, but in the end, there's no proof. It's all speculation, with assumptions, biased interpretations, etc. When you don't want to accept the obvious, it's easy to just keep scratching away until you think you find something (look up pareidolia).
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keehun 9y ago
It's really NOT obvious. Check the trail of Fox News' "evidence" falling apart at the seams: http://digg.com/2017/who-is-seth-rich-dnc-murder-wikileaks http://digg.com/2017/who-is-seth-rich-dnc-murder-wikileaks