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I don't think political murders targeting individuals are that common in the US. Or am I completely wrong?
by fsloth 9y ago
I don't think political murders targeting individuals are that common in the US. Or am I completely wrong?
- jfabre 9y agoEven though it's not proved, Seth Rich comes to mind. (edit removed the yet in "proved yet")
- myaccountzz 9y agoI mean it's pretty obvious that it was a political murder at this point. Of course liberal HN will down-vote you even if there was video evidence.
- ceejayoz 9y agoUh huh. http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/16/media/seth-rich-family-response-claims-of-wikileaks-contact/ http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/16/media/seth-rich-family-respo...
- jfabre 9y agoAll right, is wikileaks also doing that for political reasons? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/10/wikileaks-offers-20000-reward-over-murder-of-democrat-staffer-se/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/10/wikileaks-offers-.... And we're supposed to trust that the family actually knows what really happened?
- ceejayoz 9y ago> All right, is wikileaks also doing that for political reasons? Quite possibly. After all, they're against leaks when they're aimed at Trump: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/817322050297745408 https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/817322050297745408 > And we're supposed to trust that the family actually knows what really happened? The supposed bombshell yesterday fell apart, as conspiracy theories tend to do.
- jfabre 9y agoThanks for taking the time to reply to me and not just down-voting. I'm actually learning what your point of view on the story is.
- _jal 9y agoOh my god, that tweet. Assange has no more self-awareness than he did in the 90s, when we were on a mailing list together. Or than a turnip, for that matter.
- LyndsySimon 9y agoIt's worth noting that Brad Bauman, who is acting as spokesperson for the Rich family, is a PR expert with a long history with the DNC and supporting Progressive causes. If he's being paid by someone closely affiliated with the Democratic Party - and I don't know that he is, I'm building an air castle here - then distancing the Rich family from WikiLeaks would be in his best interest. This seems likely to me, as per the CNN article you linked: > Wheeler was put in touch with the Rich family through Dallas businessman Ed Butowsky, who told CNN he had offered to pay any bills associated with the investigation. > "You have a family who can't afford a PI. Their son was killed. So I offered to help out," Butowsky said. If they truly couldn't afford a PI, then I doubt they could afford a top-tier PR professional to speak on their behalf.
- hackunomatter 9y agoYou can keep finding tenuous connections, but in the end, there's no proof. It's all speculation, with assumptions, biased interpretations, etc. When you don't want to accept the obvious, it's easy to just keep scratching away until you think you find something (look up pareidolia).
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- keehun 9y agoIt's really NOT obvious. Check the trail of Fox News' "evidence" falling apart at the seams: http://digg.com/2017/who-is-seth-rich-dnc-murder-wikileaks http://digg.com/2017/who-is-seth-rich-dnc-murder-wikileaks
- coldtea 9y agoHow would one know? Because of the media, power balances, legalities etc of US life, they obviously wouldn't be doing them in an open Third World/Banana Republic style (where, depending on the country/political climate, the state doesn't hesitate much to semi-openly get rid of enemies and more or less everybody knows they did it).
- tome 9y agoThere's not much point committing political murder unless people know about it.
- coldtea 9y agoThere is if you want to stop people from messing with things, exposing things you don't want the public to know, etc.
- pvg 9y agoHow would one know? Because people who would be targets of political murders don't die at a statistically unusual rate. Unless you think they are also being secretly replaced with more pliant clones/cyborgs or we are all just copied over to a less unruly simulation. Then it would be harder to know.
- coldtea 9y ago>Because people who would be targets of political murders don't die at a statistically unusual rate. They don't have to be well known people that you would identify as targets. In fact those would be the worst to target. They could be potential whistleblowers you never learned of, for example. That said, sticking to well known people that could be targets, there's a large variety of those to e.g. MLK Jr, Malcom X, JFK, Robert Kennedy -- to name but a few in a single decade's span.
- pvg 9y agoThese are political assassinations but they are assassinations by crazies. If you think these are government plots or that the man is secretly sending ninjas to rub out potential whistleblowers, you have to come up with some evidence otherwise it's just conspiracy theorizing. We might as well talk of alien abductions.
- MK999 9y agoDepends on how you interpret conspiracy theories.
- kingkawn 9y agoIt is true, we are experts at effecting the social death so that the continued existence of the body is only a lingering triviality.
- lurker456 9y agoMichael Hastings and Kenneth Lay come to mind. No proof obviously.
- tc313 9y agoKen Lay's death was a life insurance scam.
- tc313 9y agoEspecially not AFTER they've done all the damage they can do! What's the point of killing her now?