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I think your "counterpoint" is a more of a "hey maybe our president needs said sticker" argument.

_jal 9y ago
Or perhaps we just live in a crass, violent, rude culture, and like all of the other stupid things adults do to tell themselves children don't marinate in it, it simply doesn't work. "Sorry, Becky, but President-talk is just too grown up for your pretty little head! Just go read your abstinence lessons. You can learn about civics when you're 18." Reality: you're soaking in it. So are your kids. Slapping stickers on things just serves to make selecting the "good" stuff easier for those seeking it. Reference: I was 16 when Tipper Gore threw her clown show, and remember our reactions. We mocked it - I co-sponsored a Model U.N. resolution demanding warning labels for politicians' speech due to the harms to human rights, and (in violation of protocol) played part of "Sex Junkie" by the Plasmatics[1] at the end of my presentation. [1] Wendy O'Williams was a lesser-known speaker at the PMRC show trial, but for my money the most eloquent. Plus I just really liked her - teenage crush. She is missed.
- inanutshellus 9y ago
  Sounds like you're pretty emotionally invested in this argument, so this may be flame-bait, though it's not intended to be. You were 16 when the laws were enacted. Of course you'd mock them. It even clearly shaped you as an adult: you're still angry about what you see as nanny-statism. Still, it's just your natural growth as a person. As a child you're protected from crassness, then in your adolescence you revel in it, then you have children and shun it, then once your kids are too old for you to control what they see you throw your hands up at it and declare the world lost to corruption. At any rate, there is a point in life where you personally need to protect someone else and your ability to do that in the "information age" is harder than it has ever been. So a silly sticker that makes teenagers scoff and parents happy fills every cup to the brim.
wand3r 9y ago
No. It's that you can't throw a sticker on everything. Parents can determine whether they want to limit what they want kids to see AND if so what limits to put on them. Or I guess put a sticker on everything; but that's not a world I want to live in.

_jal 9y ago

Or perhaps we just live in a crass, violent, rude culture, and like all of the other stupid things adults do to tell themselves children don't marinate in it, it simply doesn't work. "Sorry, Becky, but President-talk is just too grown up for your pretty little head! Just go read your abstinence lessons. You can learn about civics when you're 18." Reality: you're soaking in it. So are your kids. Slapping stickers on things just serves to make selecting the "good" stuff easier for those seeking it. Reference: I was 16 when Tipper Gore threw her clown show, and remember our reactions. We mocked it - I co-sponsored a Model U.N. resolution demanding warning labels for politicians' speech due to the harms to human rights, and (in violation of protocol) played part of "Sex Junkie" by the Plasmatics[1] at the end of my presentation. [1] Wendy O'Williams was a lesser-known speaker at the PMRC show trial, but for my money the most eloquent. Plus I just really liked her - teenage crush. She is missed.

inanutshellus 9y ago
Sounds like you're pretty emotionally invested in this argument, so this may be flame-bait, though it's not intended to be. You were 16 when the laws were enacted. Of course you'd mock them. It even clearly shaped you as an adult: you're still angry about what you see as nanny-statism. Still, it's just your natural growth as a person. As a child you're protected from crassness, then in your adolescence you revel in it, then you have children and shun it, then once your kids are too old for you to control what they see you throw your hands up at it and declare the world lost to corruption. At any rate, there is a point in life where you personally need to protect someone else and your ability to do that in the "information age" is harder than it has ever been. So a silly sticker that makes teenagers scoff and parents happy fills every cup to the brim.

wand3r 9y ago

No. It's that you can't throw a sticker on everything. Parents can determine whether they want to limit what they want kids to see AND if so what limits to put on them. Or I guess put a sticker on everything; but that's not a world I want to live in.