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> This is only a moral/ethical evaluation done by the GNU project. And GNOME is part of the GNU project... > And of course Savannah would come first There's

by cyphar 9y ago

> This is only a moral/ethical evaluation done by the GNU project. And GNOME is part of the GNU project... > And of course Savannah would come first There's no reason why GitLab could not also get an A rating, aside from friction from GitLab themselves.

mikegerwitz 9y ago
GitLab has been very receptive to many recommendations. There's discussion (stalled) here: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/15678 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/15678 More discussion can be found in the archives: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/repo-criteria-discuss/ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/repo-criteria-discuss/
- cyphar 9y ago
  > GitLab has been very receptive to many recommendations. I never said it wasn't, I was just saying that the only meaningful blocker is on GitLab's side (though as you've mentioned in that thread there is some discussion on refining the requirements). > There's discussion (stalled) here: Emphasis on "stalled". ;)
  - mikegerwitz 9y ago
    > I never said it wasn't I was just praising them, not disagreeing with you. :)
jrimbault 9y ago
No reason apart from the fact that the ones judging are the ones setting up the rules for judgment and have a horse in the race. And still, it doesn't get to the heart of the issue, we're not comparing ethical viewpoints here, we're asserting product quality from a user standpoint.
- cyphar 9y ago
  > No reason apart from the fact that the ones judging are the ones setting up the rules for judgment and have a horse in the race. I don't know what you think the GNU project stands for, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that they would not give GitLab an A rating if they followed the requirements (which are publicly listed). As an example, they promote GNU/Linux distributions that are not funded by the FSF[1]. Same goes for the FSF's "Respects Your Freedom" mark -- they reward it to anyone who passes the requirements. The GNU project regularly promotes non-GNU projects. This is all just FUD. > we're not comparing ethical viewpoints here, we're asserting product quality from a user standpoint That's what _you're_ discussing. One of the factors in GNOME's decision is the ethical concerns of the GNU project (since they are a member of the GNU project and ethical concerns are the main crux of the GNU project). [1]: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html

by cyphar 9y ago

mikegerwitz 9y ago

GitLab has been very receptive to many recommendations. There's discussion (stalled) here: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/15678 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/15678 More discussion can be found in the archives: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/repo-criteria-discuss/ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/repo-criteria-discuss/

cyphar 9y ago
> GitLab has been very receptive to many recommendations. I never said it wasn't, I was just saying that the only meaningful blocker is on GitLab's side (though as you've mentioned in that thread there is some discussion on refining the requirements). > There's discussion (stalled) here: Emphasis on "stalled". ;)
- mikegerwitz 9y ago
  > I never said it wasn't I was just praising them, not disagreeing with you. :)

jrimbault 9y ago

No reason apart from the fact that the ones judging are the ones setting up the rules for judgment and have a horse in the race. And still, it doesn't get to the heart of the issue, we're not comparing ethical viewpoints here, we're asserting product quality from a user standpoint.

cyphar 9y ago
> No reason apart from the fact that the ones judging are the ones setting up the rules for judgment and have a horse in the race. I don't know what you think the GNU project stands for, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that they would not give GitLab an A rating if they followed the requirements (which are publicly listed). As an example, they promote GNU/Linux distributions that are not funded by the FSF[1]. Same goes for the FSF's "Respects Your Freedom" mark -- they reward it to anyone who passes the requirements. The GNU project regularly promotes non-GNU projects. This is all just FUD. > we're not comparing ethical viewpoints here, we're asserting product quality from a user standpoint That's what _you're_ discussing. One of the factors in GNOME's decision is the ethical concerns of the GNU project (since they are a member of the GNU project and ethical concerns are the main crux of the GNU project). [1]: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html