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Gmail still rocks

by bbcbasic 9y ago

Gmail still rocks

dkersten 9y ago
I switched to fastmail a year ago and have never been happier. Their support also responds!
- distances 9y ago
  FastMail is so much better than GMail. I don't know why I didn't change earlier.
  - dkersten 9y ago
    Yeah, I thought I'd miss GMail, but I really didn't. I used Google Inbox for a while too and thought I'd miss that, but now I use Spark as my mail client so I don't even miss that either. It was more of a mental "but but my decade-long history of gmail" thing, but it turned out that really was less of a big deal than I thought. I now have a nice custom domain and I forward my gmail to my fastmail, updating subscriptions every so often. Eventually gmail will receive no more mail I care about and I will remove the forwarding altogether. Its getting there!
    - mstade 9y ago
      This. I too dreaded the switch because of all the history, but the migration to fastmail was quick and painless, and I lost nothing. (Arguably, losing everything would've been better, so much useless noise in my history.) Looking back on it now, about a year after migrating, my only regret is I didn't do it sooner.
      - StavrosK 9y ago
        Exactly the same experience for me. It's so much faster, more convenient and useful, and the migration tool was a breeze to use, I should have done it years ago.
      - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
        I just stopped by to join the little FastMail fan crowd over here. If you aren't a FastMail customer yet, you're gonna assume we're shills. We're not, it's just the sort of quality product that makes you want to tell others. It's like having found Gmail in 2005.
- srinathrajaram 9y ago
  http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?p=599512 http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?p=599512 No angels anywhere.
  - dkersten 9y ago
    That seems like a minor issue in comparison to the issues with google discussed here. I mean, sure, they should honour the lifetime membership, but is it really worth losing sleep over something you paid $15 for 15 years ago (at the time of that message)?
- r3bl 9y ago
  Well, to be perfectly honest, you are paying for Fastmail, while Gmail is free.
  - mdavidn 9y ago
    Oh, you're paying for Gmail. Just not in upfront dollars like with Fastmail.
  - dkersten 9y ago
    Sure, but the sentiment in this entire discussion is how unreliable googles paid for service is (never mind their free stuff - have you ever tried to get support from google for gmail or other feee service? From what I've heard it's like talking to a wall). I'd rather pay for good service than get unknown service for free.
_e 9y ago
I pay for G Suite and basically the only thing anyone uses is Gmail. I don't have hard proof but I feel that all of my emails from my domain never go to spam. I one time had to use Godaddy's email system and ALL emails went to people's spam folder. It is like Google makes you pay for email or your emails won't get delivered properly. Maybe it was Godaddy's mail system's IP that was blacklisted but I think you have to pay to play these days.
- sethrin 9y ago
  Is there some criterion by which GoDaddy is not the worst service provider? Given their popularity with domain parkers and other less savory parts of the IT world, I would assume that the blame was entirely on their shoulders. That said, configuring an email server correctly seems to be rather an involved process[0] so we should perhaps not rule out some measure of incompetence as well as shadiness. [0] https://serverfault.com/questions/218615/mail-server-checklist https://serverfault.com/questions/218615/mail-server-checkli...
  - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
    The reason we're all here, support. One of the reasons GoDaddy is a company I still use and have used for years is that they have 24/7 telephone support that's reasonably decent. I have called and gotten domain issues sorted by GoDaddy at 2 AM on a Sunday by a dude who didn't have a foreign accent. I'm not a big account with them, surely trivial compared to those mass domain parkers you mention, but they've never made me feel like I was less valued as a customer. I have received calls from humans just to ask me if I am currently satisfied with my service with them. Especially if you have a business-critical service, this should simply be a baseline requirement for support, but it's becoming shockingly rare these days.
    - hellofunk 9y ago
      I've had the complete opposite experience with GoDaddy support. Many of them are not so knowledgable and can easily waste time, and billing matters in particular can be quite disorganized with them if something goes wrong. I moved all my domains way from GoDaddy.

Gmail still rocks

dkersten 9y ago

I switched to fastmail a year ago and have never been happier. Their support also responds!

distances 9y ago
FastMail is so much better than GMail. I don't know why I didn't change earlier.
- dkersten 9y ago
  Yeah, I thought I'd miss GMail, but I really didn't. I used Google Inbox for a while too and thought I'd miss that, but now I use Spark as my mail client so I don't even miss that either. It was more of a mental "but but my decade-long history of gmail" thing, but it turned out that really was less of a big deal than I thought. I now have a nice custom domain and I forward my gmail to my fastmail, updating subscriptions every so often. Eventually gmail will receive no more mail I care about and I will remove the forwarding altogether. Its getting there!
  - mstade 9y ago
    This. I too dreaded the switch because of all the history, but the migration to fastmail was quick and painless, and I lost nothing. (Arguably, losing everything would've been better, so much useless noise in my history.) Looking back on it now, about a year after migrating, my only regret is I didn't do it sooner.
    - StavrosK 9y ago
      Exactly the same experience for me. It's so much faster, more convenient and useful, and the migration tool was a breeze to use, I should have done it years ago.
    - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
      I just stopped by to join the little FastMail fan crowd over here. If you aren't a FastMail customer yet, you're gonna assume we're shills. We're not, it's just the sort of quality product that makes you want to tell others. It's like having found Gmail in 2005.
srinathrajaram 9y ago
http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?p=599512 http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?p=599512 No angels anywhere.
- dkersten 9y ago
  That seems like a minor issue in comparison to the issues with google discussed here. I mean, sure, they should honour the lifetime membership, but is it really worth losing sleep over something you paid $15 for 15 years ago (at the time of that message)?
r3bl 9y ago
Well, to be perfectly honest, you are paying for Fastmail, while Gmail is free.
- mdavidn 9y ago
  Oh, you're paying for Gmail. Just not in upfront dollars like with Fastmail.
- dkersten 9y ago
  Sure, but the sentiment in this entire discussion is how unreliable googles paid for service is (never mind their free stuff - have you ever tried to get support from google for gmail or other feee service? From what I've heard it's like talking to a wall). I'd rather pay for good service than get unknown service for free.

_e 9y ago

I pay for G Suite and basically the only thing anyone uses is Gmail. I don't have hard proof but I feel that all of my emails from my domain never go to spam. I one time had to use Godaddy's email system and ALL emails went to people's spam folder. It is like Google makes you pay for email or your emails won't get delivered properly. Maybe it was Godaddy's mail system's IP that was blacklisted but I think you have to pay to play these days.

sethrin 9y ago
Is there some criterion by which GoDaddy is not the worst service provider? Given their popularity with domain parkers and other less savory parts of the IT world, I would assume that the blame was entirely on their shoulders. That said, configuring an email server correctly seems to be rather an involved process[0] so we should perhaps not rule out some measure of incompetence as well as shadiness. [0] https://serverfault.com/questions/218615/mail-server-checklist https://serverfault.com/questions/218615/mail-server-checkli...
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  The reason we're all here, support. One of the reasons GoDaddy is a company I still use and have used for years is that they have 24/7 telephone support that's reasonably decent. I have called and gotten domain issues sorted by GoDaddy at 2 AM on a Sunday by a dude who didn't have a foreign accent. I'm not a big account with them, surely trivial compared to those mass domain parkers you mention, but they've never made me feel like I was less valued as a customer. I have received calls from humans just to ask me if I am currently satisfied with my service with them. Especially if you have a business-critical service, this should simply be a baseline requirement for support, but it's becoming shockingly rare these days.
  - hellofunk 9y ago
    I've had the complete opposite experience with GoDaddy support. Many of them are not so knowledgable and can easily waste time, and billing matters in particular can be quite disorganized with them if something goes wrong. I moved all my domains way from GoDaddy.